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The Beeb again:

In a recent item about true crime programmes, the reporter said that some podcasts "get their facts wrong".

If they're wrong, can they be facts?

Malone

Thanks. I pronounce fort and fought differently, but I like Derry air, derriere.

Swarbrules

I dont mind that. Better than " make statements purporting to be facts, which in fact, are not".

Thanks, Grunger. I've since checked online and read that 'Derry air' would be the English pronunciation and 'Derry Err' would be the US version. I, of course, should abide by the English version, but... I think I didn't really like it ' Derry air' as I only ever use 'derriere' in French (and still remember our lessons on the various accents). That's my excuse, and I'm sticking to it!

When I was younger, I saw a TV programme where Londonderry was pronounced "Londondree". I have not heard that since.

Also, I heard Cirencester pronounced something like "Sis-sester", but that was a long time ago.

jigjag

I have never heard those pronunciations. The Derry air that Malone mentioned reminded me of Danny Boy, which I always find moving.

grunger @81
I wonder what people who don't pronounce "fort" and "fought" differently think why the R is there?
The most extreme example I ever came across was a woman who was on a nature trip to Costa Rica with us who pronounced "flowers" as "flahs", She also pronounced "wires" as "wahs"!

And yes becomes ears.

I don't mind people's pronunciations if they are in their natural mode. If posh people speak posh (long live RP) that's their natural way. I am longing for someone to ask me what sprites are so I can say they are what the royal family has for Christmas lunch.

However, it's when accents are artificially adapted that they grate with me. Particularly politicians who want to be seen as one of the 'working people'.
Did the Chancellor really always pronounce 'government' with the first syllable as in 'good'?

Paul

I pronounce "government" as the chancellor, but I dont know her background.

I like your sprouts joke.

Chrise

I first heard flahs in the "flowers that bloom in the spring tra-la". My friend from the Midlands pronounces it "flow-ers", as in river flows.

I have heard "skirt" pronounced at least 6 different ways in Liverpool, from the "George Melly" style "skart" to the Stan Boardman "skiiiiirt"

Jigjag

Hope you like your new `Grind` - it certainly looks impressive!