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tyke51

17th August 2025, 23:08
It ain't over 'til the fat lady sings!
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swarbrules

25th August 2025, 00:52
Just been listening to this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlG-vN8i9Qc

A nice version but, it just occurred to me:

If I was in LA?

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chrise

27th August 2025, 15:55
Lovely performance, swarbrules, but do you want "were" rather than "was"?

RT36
Generous packed amount, say (7)
Chambers strongly disagrees with the definition but, sadly, Google AI doesn't!
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grunger

31st August 2025, 17:42
It was irritating on Saturday morning TV that 2 chefs used "marinade" correctly as a noun, but then used the word as a verb instead of "marinate".
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swarbrules

31st August 2025, 20:08
Is it just an extreme example of D replacing T in so many words*

So many seem to spread budder on their toast and drink bidder.

* No it isn't, but it lets me get it off my chest.
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chrise

31st August 2025, 20:15
It's the other way round, but David Wilcocks (and probably other choral conductors) always got his choir to voice their Ds as Ts, as it sounds more crisp.
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chrise

31st August 2025, 20:26
...mostly at the ends of words, though.
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malone

31st August 2025, 21:01
Grunger, I'm perfectly happy with 'marinade' as a verb - because Chambers is perfectly happy with 'marinade' as a verb! The definition says ' to steep in a marinade (also marinate)'. And 'marinate' doesn't get a listing on its own, so I don't feel it's been usurped!
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chrise

31st August 2025, 21:11
Malone
You have to remember that Chambers is descriptive, not prescriptive, so it includes all sorts of usages that are just plain wrong! I wish they were more ready to add "incorrect" or similar.
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malone

31st August 2025, 21:22
Thanks, ChrisE. I'd have been quite happy to correct Chambers if I'd thought it was necessary - but 'marinade' as a verb has been used since the late 17th century! That's from the Oxford Dictionary of English. The Shorter Oxford English Dictionary has 'marinade' as a verb first used 1700-1729.
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