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peterm

9th December 2015, 15:51
In 14dn, could the direction be the 4th letter, with the remaining word representing d (beginning to drop), a conventional abbreviation for dead? That would give you "in this way". A bit tenuous, I know.
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nikki

9th December 2015, 15:54
Ah, thank you Tinieleek - I had that word in my long list of possibilities but did not think of the middle bit as a 9!
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nikki

9th December 2015, 15:55
Sorry about the spelling of your name, T.
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trevor

9th December 2015, 15:57
thanks Sid48, annoyed that i missed the anagram.
thanks also Nikki, all clear now on 23a. i think i have the same answers as others to 24d and 30a but just can't square them off (along with 14d).

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teenieleek

9th December 2015, 15:58
No idea how to explain 24 except sounds like "a scene" like fuss - but that is obviously nonsense so look forward to a better explanation. 14 I also thought was a "sounds like" - last five letters. Clutching at straws - me?
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trevor

9th December 2015, 16:02
that's the best explanation i've seen Peterm, i'll have to run with that before my head explodes.
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pendragon

9th December 2015, 16:03
Thanks, prospero for your analysis of 14D. The six-letter 9 seems to work. Now onto those other hints.
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teenieleek

9th December 2015, 16:06
Yes Prospero that's it for 14, best so far.
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sid48

9th December 2015, 16:14
trevor - thanks for 30 - was thinking of the 9 in the wrong way. I think the "meat" is there because you wouldn't want to preserve the whole 30 (unless you were Damien Hirst).
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nikki

9th December 2015, 16:16
I think the dfiniition of 30a is the first 5 words.
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