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Malone

I love your clue - I solved it last night on the train to Everton. I was thinking about the days of the week, when "wided" just hit me. I had to check later that d=deserted, though I dont know the context.

I have only heard "wided" occasionally. A couple of young players in my team in North Wales use it as in "I was wided twice" or "The ump wided me............." I have never heard it used in England, but Tyke has come across it so it might be common. Tyke makes a good point about a bowler being no-balled, which sounds OK , yet wided is rather inelegant as you say.

Tyke
Yes I enjoy the writing of Neville Cardus. I like articles by Michael Henderson and Simon Heffer in the Telegraph. They have written some lovely articles on their dislike of the modern game. I usually agree with them.

Jigjag

The Yorkshire Post has always had excellent cricket writers - the current incumbent Chris Waters is a successful author, he wrote a brilliant biography of my hero Fred Trueman ... I can also usually complete the YP crosswords without dislocating my brain cell!

I had a wasted journey to Liverpool on Saturday for the Tranmere game which was called off - we arrived at Lime St at 10.30 and were forced to have a cultural tour of Liverpool instead (5 x Wetherspoons plus pubs various!) - what an exciting life I lead.

Jigjag

Glad the clue pleased you. I wonder if it's the newness of the words that makes them noticeably inelegant for me? You think 'no-balled' sounds OK, but maybe that's because you've heard/seen it so often, it's become an accepted word. I think it's as clunky, inelegant as 'wided', but maybe I'd change if I included these words in everyday conversation? H'mm, … no, that's not going to happen!

Tyke

Glad you and Jigjag have decent sportswriters to appreciate. I can contribute nothing there!

Malone

If you thought "wided" was inelegant, our wicket-keeper complained last year that he had been "byeded" by the umpire i.e. a bye had been signalled instead of a leg-bye. Wicket-keepers are very sensitive about conceding byes. I dont know if Tyke has heard byeded in Yorks.

Tyke

I wondered if you were going to Tranmere. With the heavy rain we stayed local and saw Chester v York, the 2 top teams in National North. Lost 1-0 but enjoyed it.

Yes there are some good pubs in Liverpool. I like the ones in the Beatles quarter. Hope you visited Walker Art Gallery and the Museums too!

Did you go to Southend?

Jigjag

We had a walk down to the Pier Head to see the Ferry cross the Mersey ... was impressed with the new buildings while the `Three Graces` looked at their best having been soaked by heavy rain for 48 hours.
Only saw the museums from the outside!

I thought we`d get a win at Southend but wasn`t expecting 7-1! Didn`t go unfortunately.

jigjag

Hope you are ready for the "celebrations" to-night?

Tyke

Yes there are some lovely buidings in Liverpool. The ferries used to be packed years ago.

Grunger

Yes I am ready. Plenty of sweets and pumpkin carved.

Malone

What did you think of the clue a couple of days ago - Kisser = dial. For me Kisser = mouth. Perhaps it is regional. I liked the "racquet" clue yesterday.

Jigjag

Thanks for your posts. I hope I don't miss out anything vital...

'Byeded' is a truly awful word and should be erased from everyone's vocabulary! I don't know about Tyke, but lots of people in Scotland have 'bided' in various places. The pronunciation is different, of course, and the past tense comes from a real/normal word, to bide. 'Your 'byed' is bad enough, but 'byeded'....!

I've been too busy to do the Times crossword the last couple of days, so missed both 'racquet' and 'kisser/dial'. The latter seems wrong - like you, I would have been fine with Kisser = mouth, but that's all.

Malone Jigjag Grunger

Pleased to report that `byeded` has not been heard on the sunny side of the Pennines ... if a fielder drops the ball a team-mate may remark `you should`ve catched that one` ... I like to think this is said for comic effect but am not certain!