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jigjag

13th April 2022, 16:35
Paul

I can't agree with you. I think he broke the rules purposefully, and lied in Parliament and on TV purposely/on purpose. Not the conduct of an MP let alone PM.
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paulhabershon

13th April 2022, 20:15
Yes, jigjag, I understand your view and accept that I am probably in the minority on this one.

Boris's hefty majority at the last election was probably due to the public's perception of the then Labour leader as a potential prime minister.
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orson

14th April 2022, 11:33
Purposefully, purposely and even purposively. It's a tricky area and the meanings can overlap.

I'm inclined to agree with Paul because if I do something purposefully, then I'm doing it in order to achieve something. I have a goal in mind. At least that's how I see it but others may disagree. The party was simply an end in itself so they weren't doing anything purposefully.

On another matter, I wish the BBC on Radio 3 would not refer to 16th April as Easter Saturday. If it's anything, it's Holy Saturday. Easter begins this Sunday so Easter Saturday comes after that, on the 23rd.
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jigjag

14th April 2022, 16:23
Paul

Thanks. I agree with you about the last Labour leader. Good policies perhaps, but not PM material.

Orson

I agree with you about Easter. References to this Saturday as Easter Saturday are wrong. It has always been Holy Saturday. I have also heard the ridiculous "Easter Friday" rather than "Good Friday". The BBC should know that Easter begins on Sunday and lasts for a week until Easter Saturday.
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todorovia

14th April 2022, 16:45
Chambers dictionary on Easter: the period during which the festival takes place, thought of as running from Good Friday to Easter Monday.

Call the Saturday between Good Friday and Easter Day what you will but perhaps it is not the BBC who should know when Easter is. As Easter has to with the festival commemorating the Resurrection of Christ, you could conceivably say that Good Friday is not part of Easter but the Saturday after Easter Monday is clearly not part of Easter.
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jigjag

14th April 2022, 18:23
todorovia

You are correct that Good Frriday is not part of Easter, nor is Holy Saturday. You are also correct that Easter Day commemorates the resurrection of Christ. This is the day that the festival starts, and it lasts a week.

If Chambers says that a festival starts on Good Friday, then that is nonsense. I dont know anybody who celebrates the death of Christ.
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todorovia

14th April 2022, 19:17
Jigjag

Ah well. Every church I have ever known celebrates Easter as the whole event from death of Christ to the resurrection, there would not have been one without the other.

You believe Easter lasts a week after Easter Sunday, I don't; not in my life have I heard of Easter Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.
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jigjag

15th April 2022, 13:08
Todorovia

Have a look at Wikipedia. The Easter celebration lasts for 8 days. The days are Easter Sunday, Easter Monday.............Easter Saturday, Second Sunday of Easter. The first 7 of these are known as Easter Week. The week before Easter is Holy Week.
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orson

19th April 2022, 14:09
I often find I cannot watch a period drama on television without listening for words out of their time.

In Gentleman Jack I've noticed skinflint and blindsided so far. The latter is the more egregious, being an American sporting term from the 1960s. It just sounds so wrong in 1830s England.
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chrise

19th April 2022, 14:59
on easter saturday: i know it's not definitive, but even radio times makes this distinction. last friday was labelled good friday; sunday easter day, and monday easter monday, but last saturday was just "saturday".
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