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malone

7th February 2019, 16:06
Jigjag and Pedagogue, I have to confess that I didn't know anything about the subtleties of 'due to' and 'owing to'. I've checked Chambers and it has confirmed that I am not alone. One definition of 'due to' is - 'owing to, because of (a use still deprecated by some, but now almost standard'. I think you're still able to tut at any instances of 'incorrect' usages, but in the interests of fairness, these will have to be silent tuts.
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pedagogue

7th February 2019, 16:23
Malone
Yes, sometimes I feel like Canute as the waves surge forward, knowing that, in the end, our language is dynamic, ever changing.
Perhaps I should, as once said on BBC News, "re-look" at my position.
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malone

7th February 2019, 16:36
Pedagogue, I'm sorry that I can't put the whole weight of the PU behind your 'due to' grievance, but I trust I have been fairly even-handed. I admire your realistic attitude, acknowledging that our language is dynamic, ever changing. Great, innit?*
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jigjag

7th February 2019, 17:25
Pedagogue

I bet you are with me on this. Politicians say "I refute that" when they mean deny or reject. They do not, of course, give any evidence for their "refutation"
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chrise

7th February 2019, 17:29
That one gets me too, jigjag.
Another one I wince at every week is when Jermey Paxman introduces University Challenge and says
"With an average age of 24, let's meet the team"
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jigjag

7th February 2019, 17:38
Chrise

Yes, at school we often discussed "misplaced adjectival clauses" My English teacher, My Higgins loved talking about them. He often mentioned "Sitting at the table was a lady with Queen Anne legs" and so on.

Was English your subject?
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chrise

7th February 2019, 17:40
No, Chemistry, mostly (some Biology and some IT). However "all teachers are English teachers"!

I do a lot of proofreading.
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pedagogue

7th February 2019, 18:04
jigjag

Yes, it galls me too, although this is probably another example of a change brought on by common usage.
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malone

7th February 2019, 18:33
ChrisE, jigjag and pedagogue...we must continue to fight against the dangly bits being put in the wrong place. The errors lead to an inelegant, flawed version of English. Common usage can alter the meaning/perceived meaning of a word or phrase, but there's more than that involved here!
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tyke51

7th February 2019, 19:12
Going forward, the clock is literally ticking as we continue to kick the can down the road towards the cliff edge
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