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demeter

22nd December 2013, 11:03
Almost completed the grid, but have no idea what to do with the initial letters from the discarded words.

Clue, anyone?
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planks

22nd December 2013, 12:57
The final grid will not be as the initial fill. You should see some emerging patterns that will give you a clue as to how to move things about. Once you sort out the grid-fill the initial letters begin to make sense.
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demeter

22nd December 2013, 16:40
Hmm. Yes, I see the XY-YX patterns, but can't think how to modify the grid.
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planks

22nd December 2013, 17:17
I found it useful to focus initially on the RH two thirds of the grid
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unclued

24th December 2013, 10:34
Can anyone give some more clues about how to finish this one. I'm totally confused!
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djawhufc

24th December 2013, 11:53
You have to do something with columns 5-8 and 9-12

You have to do something with the top half of columns 1-4 and the bottom half
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demeter

24th December 2013, 17:36
Sorry to be slow, but I still can't see what to do.

Could you give another hint, without completely giving the game away?

Thanks.
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djawhufc

24th December 2013, 18:07
Hard to hint without telling but it involves swapping the position of columns. You need to move columns 5-8 en masse and replace with 4 others- hand mill and mill hand give the hint.

You then need to move the top half of the other columns down.

The grid then does something that is very clever





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demeter

24th December 2013, 18:33
The silly thing is, I've been contemplating that sort of move ever since I filled the grid, having spotted the various pairs of relevant words, but I still don't see it.

Do we just swap columns 5-8 with columns 9-12 and then swap the top half of rows 1-4 with the bottom half? That doesn't seem to work.
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djawhufc

24th December 2013, 19:34
You need to look at the clashes.

the word below should be strife which should help you put the right letters in
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