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james

2nd December 2013, 15:42
I'm thinking along the lines 4-11 rather than one word of 15 letters.
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greedy kite

2nd December 2013, 15:45
James: it's 1 word alright, but with a hyphen after the first4 letters. And it means the very opposite of "Christmas spirit", which by chance was my first guess --- complretely wrong, but would also have been 9,6 and not 15, in keeping with the other misleading letter totals given here!
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greedy kite

2nd December 2013, 15:46
PS I think a hyphenated word still counts as one word.
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james

2nd December 2013, 16:23
Yep GK, I have it.
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neveracrossword

2nd December 2013, 16:36
Just started to look at this and I think that I am giving up! Got 16A straight away from wordplay, but fail to see how this applies in 10A (if I have it right that is), and why given the loosest of "instructions" are all clues undefined, and word-count not given? I can't see any theme in the few that I've got so far. Very disappointing crossword in my humble opinion. Good luck to all!
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cmk

2nd December 2013, 16:46
Nearly all done bar the top right hand side.

I have answers for all apart from 3 down, but I'm not at all happy with what I have. My answer for 4 down (which was among the first I solved) doesn't really follow the instructions at all, with the relevant element in the wrong place.

Very disappointing.
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james

2nd December 2013, 16:47
CMK: have to agree re 4D. makes no sense.
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prospero

2nd December 2013, 17:19
cmk - I think the thematic element of 3 dn is the same as that of 17d. They've now published the correct word-lengths - after some of us have submitted!
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james

2nd December 2013, 17:30
Agreed on 3D.

21A: Is there a word with I*M*M?

Can someone explain the wordplay at 9A please?
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livs

2nd December 2013, 17:30
Add me to the list of the disappointed!

Is anything really served by omitting definitions and real word counts, except to mystify solvers in a way which is easy for the compiler but gives no sense of fun and satisfaction to the solver?

Ditto the 'theme' of 16A. It gets a big, fat "So what?" from me too. For a while I didn't solve 16A, though I was on the right lines - but I was trying to think of a 15-letter word until I saw the hints here - and I wondered if 'displayed in all other solutions' meant that the others contained only letters from that 15-letter word. It looked likely for a while, and led me down a few wrong paths.

I've only just started this - well, apart from taking a quick look in the early hours because I remembered (a) that it was Genius day and (b) that we bought a cheapo tablet some months ago, and I might be able to actually see the crossword and fill it in - nope, not on Android/Chrome I can't. Then at lunchtime I tried on my computer but one printer ink had run out, and the printer wouldn't play nicely even though I didn't need that cartridge for the crossword. So I had to go to the library and print it - hence the late start. (And the Java version never worked, though it failed in a different way on each of the 3 devices - well done, Grauniad, love you but that's a bit pants.)

Anyway... I'm a little over halfway done and I'm giving up because Crucible has managed to remove a big part of the fun of doing a crossword. It's one-up from guessing words at random, but I want a bit more than that, especially from the Genius. I want to feel the setter put as much effort in as I am, if not a lot more. I'm feeling a bit short-changed.

And I'm not even feeling grumpy. Really.
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