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ilippu

3rd August 2026, 18:09

oldwolfie

20a first two words definition.
2 (treated) + 2
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muraria

3rd August 2026, 18:10
Hi illipu
7 single letters which, in order, give a representation of the 15-30-7. The first letter is in row 14
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ilippu

3rd August 2026, 18:11
oldwolfie

I got 7a, without much difficulty, thanks.
I am searching for the keys.

What's with the Genius setters and keys?!

Feel like locking them up in a room and throw the keys away :-).
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castafiore

3rd August 2026, 18:12
I loved this crossword! Not sure I would have got there without your help, Muraria.
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ilippu

3rd August 2026, 18:30
Thanks muraria.

I suspected what the 7 letters could be and I woke up this morning with the possible answer for 15-30-7, as I had the grid-fill but not all the letters of the framework, last night.

Incidentally, 7d was my FOI, as I was identifying the unclued, and was surprised it was clued.

You have now confused me with "first letter in row 14", why not the one in row 1, as where it should start?

I have not interpreted the framework correctly, perhaps, I am on the wrong track.

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oldwolfie

3rd August 2026, 18:30
Thanks Ilippo and Ixion.

Ilippo: ignore my first suggestion---I was replying to something else. Oops.
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muraria

3rd August 2026, 18:50
Hi illipu

Well, yes, you can certainly start identifying the seven cells from row 1 or from the bottom. From the top, the first cell that obeys the rules of the framework and provides one of the "keys" is in row 9.
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jono

3rd August 2026, 18:52
Only now do I see that the duration of ‘keys’ 5 and 6 (being double those that precede them) is cleverly indicated by their spacing.
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ilippu

3rd August 2026, 19:00
Thanks muraria (and jono):

I am none the wiser. I will take a break.
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xwordfiend

3rd August 2026, 20:02
If the keys are in 9 to 14 I only get 6. Am I missing something or do I need to re-examine all the answers?

Thanks for all the help.
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