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Tyke, I knew players were 'given' offside - but I was just musing about a shorter term! I'd heard 'no-balled' before, and consider that another inelegant word. I was a little disappointed recently when Jigjag mentioned 'ump' for umpire was in use. Thank goodness it hasn't spread to tennis.

Malone, I agree a lot of sporting terms are inelegant.

Neville Cardus was cricket writer and music critic for the Manchester Guardian many years ago - his cricket writing was delightful - I`m sure you would enjoy reading any of his works, even if you don`t like cricket - Jigjag would hopefully agree!

Malone

I love your clue - I solved it last night on the train to Everton. I was thinking about the days of the week, when "wided" just hit me. I had to check later that d=deserted, though I dont know the context.

I have only heard "wided" occasionally. A couple of young players in my team in North Wales use it as in "I was wided twice" or "The ump wided me............." I have never heard it used in England, but Tyke has come across it so it might be common. Tyke makes a good point about a bowler being no-balled, which sounds OK , yet wided is rather inelegant as you say.

Tyke
Yes I enjoy the writing of Neville Cardus. I like articles by Michael Henderson and Simon Heffer in the Telegraph. They have written some lovely articles on their dislike of the modern game. I usually agree with them.

Jigjag

The Yorkshire Post has always had excellent cricket writers - the current incumbent Chris Waters is a successful author, he wrote a brilliant biography of my hero Fred Trueman ... I can also usually complete the YP crosswords without dislocating my brain cell!

I had a wasted journey to Liverpool on Saturday for the Tranmere game which was called off - we arrived at Lime St at 10.30 and were forced to have a cultural tour of Liverpool instead (5 x Wetherspoons plus pubs various!) - what an exciting life I lead.

Jigjag

Glad the clue pleased you. I wonder if it's the newness of the words that makes them noticeably inelegant for me? You think 'no-balled' sounds OK, but maybe that's because you've heard/seen it so often, it's become an accepted word. I think it's as clunky, inelegant as 'wided', but maybe I'd change if I included these words in everyday conversation? H'mm, … no, that's not going to happen!

Tyke

Glad you and Jigjag have decent sportswriters to appreciate. I can contribute nothing there!

Malone

If you thought "wided" was inelegant, our wicket-keeper complained last year that he had been "byeded" by the umpire i.e. a bye had been signalled instead of a leg-bye. Wicket-keepers are very sensitive about conceding byes. I dont know if Tyke has heard byeded in Yorks.

Tyke

I wondered if you were going to Tranmere. With the heavy rain we stayed local and saw Chester v York, the 2 top teams in National North. Lost 1-0 but enjoyed it.

Yes there are some good pubs in Liverpool. I like the ones in the Beatles quarter. Hope you visited Walker Art Gallery and the Museums too!

Did you go to Southend?

Jigjag

We had a walk down to the Pier Head to see the Ferry cross the Mersey ... was impressed with the new buildings while the `Three Graces` looked at their best having been soaked by heavy rain for 48 hours.
Only saw the museums from the outside!

I thought we`d get a win at Southend but wasn`t expecting 7-1! Didn`t go unfortunately.

jigjag

Hope you are ready for the "celebrations" to-night?

Tyke

Yes there are some lovely buidings in Liverpool. The ferries used to be packed years ago.

Grunger

Yes I am ready. Plenty of sweets and pumpkin carved.

Malone

What did you think of the clue a couple of days ago - Kisser = dial. For me Kisser = mouth. Perhaps it is regional. I liked the "racquet" clue yesterday.