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Standard Everyman fare but with a few that still have me scratching my head (then perhaps you need to get a 16a and to 9a Bren - see what I did there 😀 Yes Bren, hilarious!).

Firstly I can't see how 8d or any part of it is an "undergarment".

13d - Other than the definition, "seconds" and "cheap in the extreme", I'm at a loss.

Lastly I can't see how 2d realates to "or 17"? There is a 13 letter word that begins with 2d, "romeo" and the next 3 letters that is "of or like a 1d" but that's as far as I get.

Maybe I'm just overtired.

Regardless, thanks to Everyman.

Stay safe:-)

Brendan, Everyman always seems to have some sloppy clues but I mostly write in the answers and overlook them...

8d: I took the first word of the clue to be an "undergarment".

13d: I thought this was based on UK English and took some guesses. Isn't the definition "most delicious" and all but the 1st letter of the solution "cheap in the extreme"? I don't know the words but they look like plausible Britishisms.

2d: that is indeed a strange one. I think 17 is based on R being the 18th member of an obvious sequence, but the parsing still seems incomplete.

Apologies for typo!
In 8d, isn't the solution some kind of synonym for "undergarment"? (Thus a dd.)

Hi Brendan, an "8d garment" was/is? like a corset.

Hi Geeker, hi Mattrom

8d - I didn't scroll down far enough in Chambers, and you're right - it is listed as an "undergarment".

13d - I see what you mean but it's not a definition in Chambers.

2d - the problem I have with the definition being "(one before) 17" is that it would need an H as the penultimate letter or, failing that, a homophone indicator.

A longshot for 2d is that the clue deals with things "in XXX order", where XXX is a 5-letter slang abbrev that's a homophone of the solution.

13d - Sorry guys, I was ignoring the second letter - my mistake.

Hi Brendan. In 2d, "17" refers to a different sequence to the one you may be thinking of, one in which the answer is indeed spelled correctly (i.e., without the "h").

Or perhaps more accurately, 2d is one of the accepted variants in the sequence.

2d also my LOI. It’s given in Collins as a variant spelling, but not so in Chambers.