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jono

15th October 2021, 16:50
Doug, itโ€™s a deal ๐Ÿ˜‚
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orson

15th October 2021, 16:52
I see Chambers does give two ways of pronouncing floor, but Collins and the OED only give the flaw variety.
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malone

15th October 2021, 19:45
Thanks Orson, Mathprofrockstar... and everyone else.

Yes, Floor pronounced the Scottish (and northern England and who knows where else) way is completely valid, it's not an exotic sub-species!

I suppose I had a similar reaction (as in 'no, floor/flaw is the correct one') when a Times crossword gave Earn and Urn as soundalikes. I was quite indignant, until I read the pronunciation notes in Chambers.
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grunger

18th October 2021, 17:18
Malone

What do you think of this clue (non-cryptic) from the Mail?

Fried egg dish (8)

I could not think of any dishes involving fried eggs, but I got it eventually. Do you think it is accurate?
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chrise

18th October 2021, 17:22
Well, it is cooked in a frying pan (though we finish it under a grill)...
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grunger

18th October 2021, 17:30
chrisE

Yes, thanks, but does that mean that anything cooked in a frying-pan can be described as fried? I cook curries in a frying-pan, but would not call them fried dishes.
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jigjag

18th October 2021, 17:33
Grunger

I think the clue is accurate. If it had been "Fried-egg dish", then I would say it is wrong. I think the hyphen makes the difference.
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chrise

18th October 2021, 18:07
I think that if you put oil in a frying pan and then cook something in it, you are frying it. Frying doesn't necessarily have to be rapid. I do a spiced flattened chicken breast, which I cook on minimum gas on each side for 4 minutes, then 1 minute on each side on maximum.
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malone

18th October 2021, 18:29
Grunger, I think your egg clue is odd for a non-cryptic puzzle. Here's one for you and other PU members...

Win the Ashes perhaps, did you say? (4)

Yes, I managed to work it out...
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paulhabershon

18th October 2021, 19:32
malone@192

I expect you sound the r in both those homophones, so the clue works for you, just as it does for me for whom the r is silent in both words.

I haven't a clue about the fried egg dish - well, obviously I do have a clue, but no idea of the answer. Give me cryptic any time.
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