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despard

20th May 2019, 10:03
I would be interested to hear your authority for that. Is it something which has come about as the result of people's ignorance or indolence?
What about St. James's Park?
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orson

20th May 2019, 12:13
Every book I can lay my hands on puts an apostrophe in King's Cross, but of course there is never an apostrophe when kings is part of a longer name, such as Kingsbury. Earls Court doesn't have one most of the time and neither does Goldsmiths. Personally, I favour less clutter when possible and I would be happy to see the end of the apostrophe, despite the occasional confusion it would cause.

Basically, there is no consistency. Various books have been written about the Thirty Years War, all with impeccable scholarship, and yet some have an apostrophe and others don't.

I agree about the horrible phrase train station, which has become popular in recent years. The convention is (or was) that if it is for trains, station by itself is enough. For other stations, they should be specified, such as bus station or petrol station.
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tyke51

20th May 2019, 15:26
Jigjag

Yes Chris Kamara is one of Sky`s footy pundits - his enthusiasm for the game often makes him talk rubbish but he`s a `proper` football person. I begrudge paying for Sky but I love most sport - especially football and cricket.

Israel seem to have been in`Eurovision` for years!

Despard

I think Kings Cross is correct ... St James, St James` and St James`s all seem to be acceptable ... Newcastle United spell the name of their ground St James` but pronounce it St James`s !
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rossim

20th May 2019, 19:15
I believe it's Exeter St james Park without the apostrophe and St James' Park Newcastle with one.
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chrise

20th May 2019, 19:22
I had a big argument about this a few years ago on here. In my opinion, "St James' Park" is simply wrong. It would refer to a park belonging (or named after) more than one St Jame. As someone said earlier, when spoken, it's St James's.
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tyke51

20th May 2019, 19:36
Rossim

I agree ... interesting that Exeter St Davids Railway Station doesn`t seem to qualify for a ` ... personally I think it should.

Chrise

St James continues to cause controversy ... when in Newcastle it`s probably wisest to stick with St James`... unless you have a particular liking for hospital food !
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hannah

20th May 2019, 23:09
Brendan et al

In the Land of Oz, apostrophes on place-name signs have been officially (or is that officiously) omitted by decree by whoever officially decrees such things

I am led to believe that it is an economy measure, and can well imagine that the savings on paint and labour costs would be significant

Sir Humphrey would approve
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trebornotlaw

20th May 2019, 23:17
My comment was meant to be in reply to one Hannah made (no.201 on page 21!) but I thought the forum would automatically include the quote and it didn't making it look a bit random.
My only authority was a book called Eats Shoots and Leaves by Lynne Truss (some of you may remember it).
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jigjag

22nd May 2019, 09:48
I know she is in the Cabinet but I have not read any of her books
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stevea6000

22nd May 2019, 22:07
Are PU members familiar with the BBC Radio 4 programme The Unbelievable Truth? If not, the premise is that each person in turn reads out a lecture containing precisely five truths - everything else is a lie. The others must try to identify those truths. Now read on ...

If you are able to access series 21 episode 5, the 8-minute lecture on 'nuts' by Richard Osman is hilarious - it's amazing how many 'nuts' aren't. This pedant found it to be very enjoyable and instructive!

I can't access it via the BBC website - presumably it's past its listen-again date.
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