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sudokulover

6th August 2016, 09:48
A "gentlish" puzzle this week for newbies/intermediates
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xwordfan

6th August 2016, 11:34
Each clue's wordplay has an extra letter

13d In the same place , plough discarded barley (4) .... the answer is BERE from crossers which is barley.... the plough = ere ... but how does the rest parse .... I "think" the extra is P

similar problem with parse of 33d
Chant Scot's lost joke (6) .... INTONE is a chant...."think" the extra may be T
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jaye

6th August 2016, 14:51
"ib." means "in the same place".

"tint" means "lost"; "one" means "joke".
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xwordfan

6th August 2016, 14:54
Thanks jaye .... so "i" is the extra in 13d?
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jaye

6th August 2016, 18:11
Yes.
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orson

7th August 2016, 23:01
I've filled the grid and resolved the clash in one cell. But these extra letters are a little tricky. For the last three of the acrosses and the first of the downs I've got ?EKE, which doesn't make sense and then from 13 to 23 down I've got IPLEY. Obviously I've got some wrong letters but what I have got does make sense. Thanks.
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heisenberg

7th August 2016, 23:22
In your first one, the first E is wrong. The ? in the wordplay is at the start (part of "flash").

In your second one the P is wrong, and the Y is the start of a word.
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dryden

8th August 2016, 03:46
Clearly I've completely miinterpreted the shading instruction. I've doen as instructed and have a meaningless patchwork of two colours that looks nothing like what I expected. I cannot see how else to interpret the instruction.
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djawhufc

8th August 2016, 07:37
Hi Dryden

You should have something in the colour and shape of one of the 4 works that have been discoloured.

You need to colour all of the relevant letters (pa etc) wherever they appear in the grid.
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orson

8th August 2016, 08:11
Thanks, heisenberg; I've got it all now.
Whereas we should appreciate the effort that goes into constructing these puzzles, they do tend to gush on the Answerbank site don't they? There were a few tedious ambiguities for me which could only be resolved by checking with crossing answers. 11a could equally well be SEAR as SERE, 48d would read better with potatoes, and touch up in 11d could just as well be pat as tat. And the preamble would have been better if it had begun "Two answers clash in one cell". When I first read it, I thought every single answer had a clash and so I almost didn't bother to attempt the puzzle.
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