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Hi rambler, I think you may have to "bump" again later on as I'm fairly sure syzygy lives in British Columbia currently 8 hours behind us.

I knew he was somewhere in Canada - he should be getting up soon!

Must say I'm quite shocked not only by the absurdity of this debate but even more by the tone Rambler has adopted. Neither Chris nor Syzygy have/has (!) said anything "they" (!) must apologize for. I thought this forum was for grown-ups. Seems some men are capable of starting a war about any damned thing. If the debate continues I shall feel like never ever looking in on this forum again (even if that might please the one or other individual). Imho absolutely nothing more to be said (not even what I think on the matter in question). So there! Understand? No? Then please be quiet. Ever heard of enjoying a suny afternoon peaceably? gk.

Hi gk, I think this quote, especially from a position of being wrong, deserves an apology

"Any man can make mistakes, but only an idiot persists in his error.”

No, I'm sorry, Rambler: your continued stance as The Innocent One just confirms for me, a whole lot of maturity is missing here. As I said, for me, BASTA!

I am sending for Matron!! :)

gk, you certainly had a lot to say in your arguments with phillip so I think it's a case of the pot calling the kettle black.

It's occurred to me, Rambler: you probably ARE Phillip --- that would explain a lot!

i remember Phillip being rather witty and intelligent.

I was wondering where you were, trevor, but I must admit it's a very good put-down