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teenieleek

11th May 2025, 15:02
I have a full grid including the three versions of 16 but my extra letters don’t give me recognisable names and I can’t see much that could be a quote. A pointer would be appreciated.
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muraria

11th May 2025, 15:26
teenieleek
the first of the two names is from the across clues, (10 letters) and the second from the down clued (6 letters). The second is far more well-known than the first.
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teenieleek

11th May 2025, 17:03
Thanks Muraria but I’m guessing taomct might be incorrect! Other potential letters are available but unless it’s an anagram of tomcat I’ve obviously gone wrong somewhere.
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muraria

11th May 2025, 17:25
Looks like you have letters from 3 and 4 down, which is correct but first letter is wrong. 3rd letter is from 10d.
Not easy to spot the extra words as I make it that there are 8 other down clues with words that need substituting based on the quote from the first name.
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biggus56

12th May 2025, 00:00
Muraria - I believe all the words in 3d are necessary to solve the clue. No extras in that one.
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muraria

12th May 2025, 07:04
Hi biggus56,
Thanks but I reckon Thea is a 'Titanic being' so 'honoured' is the extra word....
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lumen

12th May 2025, 09:09
Stuck with 1d. Have everything else.
Even with a substitution, can't make anything of it! Please assist.
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porthwick

12th May 2025, 09:22
I have the wordplay made up of two parts, each of four letters. “Need” and “Spanish fighter” missing a letter. Not sure about the rest of the clue though.
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muraria

12th May 2025, 09:35
1D is one where the definition part of the clue ("peace") needs substituting as per the preamble
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lumen

12th May 2025, 09:51
Thanks both. That word isn't in Chambers Word Wizard. I was being lazy.
Already did the substitution so should have seen it. Also had presumed, and written in, that it must end ED!
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