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rossim

7th May 2016, 19:34
Apparently Philomena never went to America as she did in the film.
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elle

7th May 2016, 20:08
Have you read the book, Rossim?
"Philomena" played very little part in the story.
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chrise

10th May 2016, 19:20
I've finally finished "Arcadia". I enjoyed it, but I'm not sure if I would recommend it. It was clever, but a bit silly.

Probably the weakest of his I've read, though - although I've read "The portrait", I can't remember much about it. "The dream of Scipio" was very powerful.
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rosalind

10th May 2016, 19:51
Thanks chris, I will put the Scipio book on my list to get and let you know. I think we have somewhat different tastes in literature, but we shall see.

I thought the film of Philomena was a great deal better than the book! I simply wasn't that interested in the boy's side of things, more in the totally dreadful story of all those women whose babies were sold to Americans. I could have done without the scene near the end with Sister Hildegard, but it did express the horrendous toll such a life can take re repression. Not all women in convents were there because they wanted to be.
As a child I was taken to (an Anglican) church every Sunday. Just as the service was about to begin, the back pews were filled with mostly short, dumpy women who seemed solemn and elderly to me though they probably weren't. They were accompanied by nuns. My mother explained they all lived in the convent and did laundry work as they were "simple". Now I dread to think how they might have been treated.
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rossim

10th May 2016, 20:33
I think the film The Magdelene Sisters was set in the same convent.
The girls were treated appallingly, both physically and mentally.
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rosalind

10th May 2016, 20:54
I believe there were many like it. Bexhill-on-Sea had a notoriously dreadful convent where there were children.
Not just convents, though. I picked up "They Cage the Animals at Night" by Jennings Michael Burch at a B and B in New Zealand. The person I was with wished I'd never done so, it made me so angry.
One can have enough of mis.lit. though.
Anyone recommend a truly uplifting read?
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chrise

10th May 2016, 21:05
Guy Gavriel Kay writes an odd mixture of fictional history/fantasy, but he has written some amazing books. "River of stars" is astonishing.
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chrise

10th May 2016, 21:22
..........although I had better mention that if you are going to read more than one of his, "Under Heaven" comes chronologically before "River of Stars".

"Last light of the sun" and "Song for Arbonne" are also standouts for me.

All are set in historical periods that are vaguely recognisable, but different, with some fantasy aspects.

"Ysabel", though aimed at younger readers, is also a great story.
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rosalind

10th May 2016, 22:11
Thank you chris, all noted and will be off to the library tomorrow
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