Shouldn't it geantri? Anyway, thanks again to all for helping me crack this one. Still makes me laugh when such puzzles are referenced as easy or normal! Still, compared to last week.......I am actually still stuck on 3 of the clues that transform and what the throw away bits are, but i have the amended answers from the extra words, so that's ok. One thing though - how does one know if 1d ends in an e or an a? Both seem OK.