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elle

5th July 2017, 10:37
Hi, Rusty!
The dog is home again - she is delighted to see me!
How is your live court case transmission going?
I hope it isn't too full of technical legal jargon?
Yes, you will know Dustin Brown; very tall guy - possibly 6" 6"? - with dreadlocks.
I think he is German/ Jamaican.
Rather aggressive playing style.
Very hot now...I've got all the fans on!
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pigale

5th July 2017, 10:38
Good morning Elle and Rusty!

A beautiful day here too, very warm already and due to reach
32/34C ! about 20C difference with two days ago!!! I do not like
it when temps play yo-yo like this - it's not good for the system!

Rusty, I have only just seen your question about La Planche-des-Belles Filles; a somewhat strange name to translate;

In gardening/agricultural terms, a 'planche' is, I think, a long narrow cultivated strip of land, and 'Belles Filles' means 'Beautiful girls', or words to that effect. So perhaps I would venture to suggest
'The Beautiful Girls' grounds' - a very rough translation!

Has P. Sagan himself said anything about yesterday? has he been
interviewed? On reflection, I do agree that it is a rather harsh
decision.
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rusty

5th July 2017, 10:50
Hello, Elle!
The Supreme Court hand-down is over.
Judgement in favour of HMRC.
It was delivered by Lord Hodge in plain understandable language, thank goodness.
BBC have already started with their lies about the case.
I think I may remember Dustin Brown.
Your description is vivid!
It is warming up here but quite tolerable.
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rusty

5th July 2017, 11:00
Good morning, Pigale!
Thank you for the translation!
I have not heard anything from Sagan, but his team, Bora, are appealing for his re-instatement, but just heard it was turned down.
They say Sagan has accepted the decision of the jury and he feels sorry for his friend, Cavendish.
He does not think he did anything wrong.
"It has happened before and will happen again" is roughly what Sagan said.
Probably justice has been served.
If Cav can't start, should Sagan?
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pigale

5th July 2017, 11:16
Yes, I suppose the Jury's decision might have been less harsh had
Cav not been so badly injured?

I googled to find when such decision was last taken, and it seems
to be 2010 with Mark Reinshaw - looking at video of the last few
metres of the stage, there was not even a crash then? and he
still got disqualified for bad sportsmanship.
So, in comparison, P. Sagan's elbow yesterday was much more
dangerous for several riders.
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elle

5th July 2017, 11:21
Hi, Rusty!
I am glad that you were pleased by the hearing and the verdict!
And that it was in "plain English"!
Yes, Dustin Brown does tend to be rather unforgettable - both in appearance and in play!
When he's good..... he's excellent!
But he does tend to be rather erratic!
I suppose there is justice in what you say about Sagan being unable to ride if Cavendish cannot......
A kind of inverted "What's sauce for the goose....." ?



Hello, Pigale!
You will be happier in today's heat!
Whereas I am gradually wilting.......
I thought a "planche" was a plank or a board in English?
But cannot find my dictionary - I have a feeling my daughter may have "borrowed " it!
I don't think that helps in offering a translation though!
How is your pain level - any improvement?
I hope so, you have suffered long enough!
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pigale

5th July 2017, 11:49
Hello Elle!

Yes, you are absolutely correct, a 'planche' is a plank or a board
in English; (and thus 'planche à dessin' = drawing board etc.
but it can also means a strip of cultivated land.

I think it finds its origin in the old way of ploughing, when the strips of earth extracted from furrows layed on top of each other and formed like a 'flat board' of earth, and thus the farmer may have grown one thing on one strip, and something else
on another (or others).

Yes, the pain is improving greatly - finally! It is never very far, but at
least it is very bearable and I can now start reducing the tablets
intake - which is good!

(It is 5 weeks since the fall, so enough is enough - but yet your toe has been going on for the same amount of time?)
I hope you will reach that point too in the near future.




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pigale

5th July 2017, 12:02
PS - could you explain 'what's sauce for the goose.....' ?
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elle

5th July 2017, 12:21
Hello, Pigale!
Thank you for the explanation about planche/ board / strip of land!
"What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander" means that if one person is allowed to do something or to behave in a particular way, then another person must be allowed to do the same thing or behave in that same way, too.
In the case of th cycling incident, I meant that if Cavendish couldn't take part, then it was "justice" that Sagan didn't, either.
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pigale

5th July 2017, 12:42
Thanks Elle - logical explanation, I had just never heard the
expression before; but yes, it does apply to the cycling incident.
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