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elle

12th October 2016, 21:22
Hi, Rusty!
I did not know that it was the anniversary of Edith Cavell's death.
Yes, she was a very brave lady, nursing both Allies and Germans, and helping allied soldiers to escape from Belgium, back to Britain.
But there has been some controversy , hasn't there, over whether or not she worked for British Intelligence, sending back important information?
There is a statue in memory of her in Trafalgar Square.
I must have walked passed it many times.......
Younger daughter and I are going shopping tomorrow to buy presents for my granddaughter and her new half - brother - and, of course , their mum!
We shall have lunch out, too.
That will be nice.
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rusty

12th October 2016, 22:09
Hello, Elle!
I don't know about her working for Intelligence.
Possibly.
Stella Rimington thinks she did.
The railway van in which her body was returned from Belgium has been preserved and is kept on the Kent and East Sussex Railway.
Do you know of it?
I have just finished The Last Tommies.
Amazing how many of them were over 100 when they died.
Yes, be nice having a day out with your daughter.
I am meeting Miss O on Friday for lunch.
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elle

12th October 2016, 22:43
Hi, Rusty!
No, until you just told me, I didn't know anything about the "Cavell Van" in which Nurse Edith's body was returned home.
I do not know the Kent and East Sussex Railway.
But I have just done a little investigating, and have unearthed another interesting titbit.....
The "Cavell Van" was also used to bring home the body of the "Unknown Warrior" - the British soldier who was killed on a battlefield in Europe.
His body was carried from Dover to London on board the Cavell Van on 10 November 1920, prior to the funeral service at Westminster Abbey on 11 November 1920.
His grave is at the west end of the Nave of Westminster Abbey.
I have nearly finished my book, too....only another fifty or so pages to read.......
I have forgotten what I am to read next...they are lined up in order of arrival........
(although I may cheat....)
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rusty

12th October 2016, 22:56
Hello, Elle,
I have Tenterden in my head for the van?
Is that in Kent or Sussex, maybe?
I knew quite a bit about the Unknown Warrior and how the body was selected, but did not know they used the Cavell van to transport him.
Quite a bit of history attached to it!
I wonder if there is a biography on Nurse Cavell?
I shall investigate!
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elle

12th October 2016, 23:20
Hi, Rusty!
Tenterden is in Kent.
But I am becoming confused!
Googling first brought forth that the Cavell Van is kept as a memorial and is usually open to view at Bodiam railway station, in East Sussex.
Then I discovered that the Van is actually on display, at the moment, for the first time, in Norfolk.
Seemingly, this is Nurse Cavell's home county.
I am assuming that this is a temporary home for the honorary "celebration".
One report says (I quote).......
"The carriage - known as the 'Cavell Van' - will be on display on tracks outside The Forum in Norwich until 17 October and visitors can sit inside it".
I expect it will be transported back to Bodiam after this, as that seems to be its "home"?

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rusty

13th October 2016, 08:36
Good morning, Elle!
Bit chilly today!
Nurse Cavell is buried at Norwich Cathedral.
Could be why the Van is at Norwich?
I had never heard of this Van until yesterday.
We are always learning!
I had a look at her grave,
An inscription says, "gave her life for England"!
There is a biography by Diana Souhami.
I have read one of her books and it was excellent.
"Murder at Wrotham Hill".
I think Wrotham is in Kent?
The murder took place in 1946, a long time ago.
It's all happening down in Kent!
Enjoy your day with your daughter!
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elle

13th October 2016, 10:02
Good morning, Rusty!
It is cold here as well - and damp!
Very poggy underfoot in the fields!
Winter weather!
I have heard of Diana Souhami, although I have never read any of her biographies......
And I have even been to Wrotham!!
Yes, it is in Kent, about five (possibly?) miles from Sevenoaks.
And incidentally, "Wrotham" is rather strangely pronounced "Root um"!
Shall you get a book about Edith Cavell?
I should think it would make good reading?
I am away out in about half an hour.......first I must go and change out of my dog-walking gear.......
I am looking forward to meeting up with my daughter!
Have a good day....catch up with you later.......
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rusty

13th October 2016, 16:24
Hello, Elle!
Not winter weather here, but it is not warm.
Apparently, most of Diana Souhami's biographies are about lesbians?
I have heard of Sevenoaks! Have you counted them?
We have some odd pronunciations up here too.
Anstruther is "Ainster", for one.
The book about the Wrotham murder was good.
It was a lady called Dagmar (cannot remember her surname) who died, and her killer hanged.
I may get the Edith Cavell book.
I topped up my account with my gift card today.
And now we have steady rain, here!
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pigale

13th October 2016, 16:44
Hello Elle and Rusty !

Miserable damp weather here too, even if no torrential rain (yet)
The South is on orange/red alert for very heavy rain/strong winds tonight and tomorrow - some flooding is expected.

I was just having a look on Amazon to see if there was a DVD about E, Cavell; there is one - the film was made just after the War; it is called Nurse Edith Cavell and is based on the book DAWN written by a certain Captain Reginald Berkely; I don't know if you have heard of him?

There are several DVDs but only one at an acceptable price - some are in the 60 or 80 bracket Euros ! one only costs 9,21 Euros which is much better. I might consider getting it with my next order.
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elle

13th October 2016, 17:44
Good afternoon, Rusty!
It ended up being quite a nice day here.......we have had some sunshine and blue sky, but it has remained cold.
I have had a very successful day out !
I bought a lovely little outfit for half brother (whom we are going to meet next week!); a craft set (beads and stuff to make things) for our granddaughter; and "smellies" ( soap and body lotion) for their mum.
And daughter, Baby and I went to Wagamama's for lunch!
No, I wasn't aware that Diana Souhami wrote about lesbians?.... but then the only title that comes to my mind is "Gertrude and Alice".......
(With hindsight, a possible indication?)
You should enjoy the book about Edith Cavell, I think?
Actually, I think I read somewhere that there are now nine oak trees at Sevenoaks?
I could have that wrong?
Six of the seven oaks came down in the storm of 1987.......and more trees were planted then.




Hello, Pigale!
How are you?
No, I haven't heard about a book entitled "DAWN" nor its author Captain Reginald Berkeley?
But you are right about there being a film.
I had read about it, though never seen it.
Anna Neagle played Nurse Edith Cavell.
It must be pretty old?
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