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alwayspuzzled

17th September 2026, 08:15
I'm afraid I'm still very much head-scratching with this. I now think I have the first 4 words of the message, in which case the fifth will begin at 1 down. I'll have another look at it later but need to get ready for a trip to the Trossachs. No doubt I'll be taking all my rough drafts etc of this with me to keep me busy on the trains.
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kirky

17th September 2026, 08:31
If you have the 1st 3 words of the message ...you should be able to google for the legend to go under the grid...
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jack aubrey

17th September 2026, 11:19
Enjoy your trip, AP and give my regards to Ben A’an. Memories of happy summer evenings on the crags there; Ash Wall and The Last Eighty were great fun and none too taxing.
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alwayspuzzled

17th September 2026, 14:17
Thanks for your good wishes, Jack Aubrey. I'll certainly look at Ben A'an and think of you. Thank you Kirky for your pointer. I've tried that but I keep getting redirected to another continent. That suggests I have the third word (and possibly the first 2) wrong. At the moment my first letters for the first 5 words (still working on the last) are T-O-I-B-C with the last word being 6 letters. Once I've got things ready for the off I'll go back to it.
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malone

17th September 2026, 14:45
AP, a quick little pointer from me - your O is wrong it should be a different vowel, everything else is fine.
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malone

17th September 2026, 14:49
AP, sorry to do this AGAIN - I didn't notice your other error. The first letters should be N-O-I-B-C.
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alwayspuzzled

17th September 2026, 16:15
Thank you again Malone for your very generous help. I'm now beginning to think that I have the wrong extra word (third?) in 19 across and completely the wrong third word of the message. (Asian nationality?) Ill go back to it once I've finished packing.
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malone

17th September 2026, 16:26
AP, thanks - and glad I haven't confused you, spoiled the puzzle for you.

Your 'Asian nationality' is correct on one level (ie it could be the answer to a crossword clue), but is probably very wrong nowadays, I don't think it's been used in the puzzle's context for a number of years now!
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alwayspuzzled

17th September 2026, 19:22
Thank you again Malone. You're certainly not ruining it for me. I now have a very common noun as the first word (a royal mistress of times past is the only other 'possibility') but when I try Googling that with what I hope is the second word together with the third word I'm still finishing up with Asian references with no obvious relevance to the theme. I have E rather than R as the second letter of the fourth word and including that together with the fifth word is still taking me in that direction. I'll have a quick look tomorrow morning before I set off then tear out what few hairs I still have during the journey.
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jack aubrey

17th September 2026, 20:17
AP, at the risk of enraging Malone by beIng way too obvious, what would your I word mean to those represented in the thematic whatsit? As to “legend” look at definition 5 as a noun in the BRB.
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