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Thanks, Dodgepot - crystal clear.

Happy to help, and agree about the puzzle’s quality

Many thanks to Smudge for a brilliant puzzle - and a very apt title. I spent a long time in the dark before a little light dawned followed later by a loud clang as the penny finally dropped.

@jono:

My app has just updated. Impossible to find the Listener xwd - can you please let me know how you found it? Thank you

Look in Crossword Club on the Puzzle page

Candledave, it doesn't seem to be anywhere on the app. I'm using an iphone 12 with latest ios, but it is not playing. As this is the only reason I subscribe to The Times, it looks very much as if it's a subscription killer for me.

I’m on an iPhone too.

Can you find the puzzles? If so you should see Crossword
club among the crosswords

Pw, I use an iPhone to access it. If you download the Times Live app, at the bottom go to Puzzles, then under Crosswords go to Crossword Club, then scroll to the very bottom of the page just above the black part, and you should see “The Listener Crossword, All the latest Listener Crossword puzzles and solutions”. Click on that. It works for me.

However, I’ve just looked at the Times Puzzles app and I can’t see it on there, so it may only be available on the full Times subscription

https://www.thetimes.com/puzzleclub/crosswordclub/news/the-listener-crossword

may work as a link