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Orson

I prefer thereafter.

Paul

Yes lay and lie are misused here. I often hear people telling their dogs to "lay down". Annoying.

Grunger

It was interesting to read in the Times yesterday that there is a "thorny national debate" about conductor/conductress. A leading female conductor wishes to be known as a "direttore" rather than "direttrice".
It might be different here as I think conductor is neutral.

Paul

I am not following the saga but am wondering how an "alleged racist remark" can be made about somebody not yet born?

jigjag

Yes I read the article. I got the impression that there is no neutral word for conductor in Italian. The woman wishes to be known as a male conductor and this has caused all the fuss. It reminded me of the story about your friend who was a bus conductress in the day but a conductor at night. I would definitely like to be a conductress.

jigjag, grunger

The 'racist remark' about the unborn baby's skin colour could be construed as 'I wonder if the baby will have Meghan's beautiful dark skin', much as one might speculate as to whether it might inherit its mother's lovely eyes. Unfortunately there is so much sensitivity about skin colour that opponents are bound to seize on the slightest perceived offence.

Inspired by this thread I was pleased to play VICTRESS in a recent online Scrabble game. Unsuccessfully challenged by my opponent.

Paul

Well done on playing Victress, a lovely word. Glad your opponent does not follow this thread.

Yes women often speculate about babies inheriting features. I suppose if the person had mentioned that the baby might have a lighter skin than her mother, there would have been no outrage from the white community.

Jigjag

Keely is coached by another European 800m championess from Wigan. I dont know either of them.

Grunger

Dom Bess is only 23 - it might be justifiable to `rotate` experienced players but I don`t think it`s fair to youngsters who are still learning the game. Funny how players seem to recover quickly when the IPL comes round!

Grunger

Did you have a victress/victrix ludorum at school?

Tyke

I suppose Rashid, Moeen Ali, Leach and Bess all feel they have been messed about to some extent. Yes, nobody has been rotated out of the IPL and according to Buttler, it was not even discussed!

jigjag

I dont remember us having any victresses/victrices ludorum. I only played netball and football at school. I remember a footballer was sent of by a teacher who was refereeing, and she was reported to the Head for "ungentlemanly conduct". The Head let her off, saying that the girl should behave like a lady not a gentleman.