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grunger

14th December 2020, 17:30
jigjag

Nice clue and will use the words when choir practice resumes. But I wont be hugging any singer, hot or otherwise.
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malone

15th December 2020, 09:19
Grunger, Jigjag

A little 'treat' from today's Times Cryptic...

26 A. Brewing ingredient? It's put back in still (5)

Grrrr - no, that's not the answer, that was my reaction!

PS As it's today's puzzle, I'm not mentioning the answer.
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grunger

15th December 2020, 13:52
Malone

Yes I solved it but it was irritating. Then I thought the "sex" clue would have "it" in it , but it was a reasonable synonym.

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jigjag

15th December 2020, 22:22
Malone

I noticed on the Times site that there were complaints about the SA/It clues, and a couple of people mentioned it was 1950s stuff.
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malone

15th December 2020, 22:32
Thanks, Jigjag. I'll look at that tomorrow. I hope you've got all your Christmas cards written and sent off - Ivor Napple, Ivan Orange and so on will be delighted to hear from you.
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orson

15th December 2020, 22:49
Sorry if I repeat anything that's already been said as I haven't been paying close attention recently.

Anyway, "it" is certainly 1920s. Consider The Desert Song, a musical from 1926. One of the songs from it is called "It" and some of the lyrics are:

So if the boys don't seem to fall for you
There's just no hope at all for you
Give up and quit
You'll never hit
If you have not got "It"!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6v6WQ1MBtRo
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grunger

16th December 2020, 15:29
Orson

Thanks. I dont mind modern slang e.g. one of the answers in the Times today, but out-of-date stuff that I have never of is unacceptable, I think.
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jigjag

17th December 2020, 13:00
Malone

Thanks. I haven't seen Ivan Napple for many months, but I must visit the market next week. I will give him a Christmas card as you suggest. Ivor Berger returned to Germany when we had the first lockdown. As far as I know, he has not come back, but I am sure he will when it is safe.
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orson

17th December 2020, 22:39
I saw an advert in my local paper today from a reputable private school. They are looking for a sport's [sic] teacher and that is how it is written throughout.

I really don't think the apostrophe is correct. Of course, they're thinking of a teacher of sports, hence sport's teacher. But a teacher of English would never be an English's teacher.

I had a similar argument with a teacher once who insisted on games' field = field of games. But nobody talks about a football's pitch.
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paulhabershon

18th December 2020, 09:48
Teacher of sports would be sports' (not sport's) teacher, but an apostrophe is nonsense there anyway.

Naturally I am a big fan of the apostrophe and keep a felt tip pen in my golf bag to add, and renew (after heavy rain), the apostrophe on the Captain's Bunker sign.

I implored management to put TROLLEYS next time they renew the several 'No trollies or buggies' signs. They've just put up new ones exactly the same.
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