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rossim

1st November 2020, 23:30
Yet they leave the T out of a lot of English words like bu'er and pota'o!
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paulhabershon

2nd November 2020, 07:47
Indeed, Rossim, (bu'er and pota'o). I forgive those who have been brought up with that as the family dialect, but I scorn upper/middle class politicians (usually) who contrive to sound like 'one of the people'. Even the sainted Princess Diana was developing the habit (the People's Princess then became her epitaph).

I suffer a lot here living in the same county as Lu'on and Lu'on Airpor'.
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tyke51

2nd November 2020, 10:58
Chap on BBC Radio this morning talking about `parthes` - instead of `paths`

I wonder if he says `marthes` instead of `maths`
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chrise

2nd November 2020, 11:04
"what's this glo'al stop thing all about?"
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paulhabershon

2nd November 2020, 13:50
Tyke re 'parthes' - is your tongue in your cheek?

This pronunciation of 'paths' isn't unusual. It is, after all, Received Pronunciation which hasn't yet been laughed out of court. RP would, however, keep the short 'a' in maths just as it's short in mathematics.

I and many others say 'barthes' for baths and even Newcarstle.

I'm all for regional variations and disapprove only of those who try to change their natural accent for effect.
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tyke51

2nd November 2020, 15:40
Paulh

I too am all for regional variations in pronunciation, but I disapprove of those who think `their`accent is superior or more correct than that of others. Apparently Margaret Thartcher had a voice coach, presumably to lose her Grarntham arccent and sound more `RP`.
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paulhabershon

2nd November 2020, 16:29
Tyke@1979 - the whole business is a minefield because Grarntham, Thartcher and arccent are not RP at all. I think Mrs T's coaching was to make her less shrill.

I entirely agree about false superiority. RP has a reputation for snobbery in some quarters but it would be unattractive inverted snobbery if the Queen tried to talk like a Cockney.
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tyke51

2nd November 2020, 17:00
Paulh

I suppose RP had some merit in that most of the population would understand it. It`s interesting that regional accents persist despite increased mobility, social media etc. I`d love to hear the Queen doing her impression of a cockney accent - with Prince Philip doing his Michael Caine partypiece!
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jigjag

3rd November 2020, 12:30
Tyke

Pity you cant be at Plough Lane tonight. Must be great for the home fans.
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tyke51

3rd November 2020, 14:49
Jigjag

Yes, missed out on a trip to London thanks to covid. I went to the old Plough Lane ground some years ago - pleased for their loyal fans who kept the club alive - they play MK Dons in the new year - should be fun!
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