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malone

28th September 2020, 14:27
Thanks, Paul...

Even though I don't like many of the homophones (aka alleged homophones in many parts of the country), I often manage to ignore them. Even when I don't, can't, I dock the setter a mark anyway for the laziness of the clue. (And some of them have been regurgitated for decades, not a good thing.)
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jigjag

28th September 2020, 19:23
Malone

Yes they sound the same to me. So do

Paw Pore Poor Pour Por
Law Lore Lure Lower Lor
Oar Ore Or Awe O'er

I use very few vowels.

Rossim

Nice to hear from you

Paul

I suppose I am white, male, working class. Only use a few flat vowels.
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jono

28th September 2020, 19:33
Don’t know if anyone’s watching ‘The Secret History of Writing’ on bbc4, Mondays at 9pm. Episode 2 tonight. Really interesting would recommend. Anyway, don't knock homophones, without them we might still be using hieroglyphs ;)
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chrise

28th September 2020, 19:37
a lot of the controversy over homophones is rhotic or non-rhotic pronunciation. as a rhotic speaker, i don't see the point of including an r in the spelling if you aren't going to pronounce it...
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chrise

28th September 2020, 19:50
I think I've mentioned this before, but we once went on a nature trip to Costa Rica, in which one of the other participants called flowers "flahs", wires, "wahs", and so on. Nonsense!
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paulhabershon

28th September 2020, 20:19
Well, Chrise, you've been mixing with anybody from upper (middle) class to aristocracy and even royalty. Prince Charles no doubt would call Highgrove 'quite a nice hice'.

I can't remember the exact words of Professor Higgins' song in 'My Fair Lady'. Something like 'The way an Englishman talks absolutely classifies him; the moment he speaks he makes some other Englishman despise him.'

I don't despise any accent unless it is 'put on'. Worst of all are people like Tony Blair and George Osborne who drop their t's for fear of sounding too posh.
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chrise

28th September 2020, 20:24
You've put your finger on one of my pet hates, paulH - dropping the final consonant off words.

It sort of reminds me of the question "How many Ls are there in Millwall"?

Answer - none - the locals pronunce as MiWah
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tyke51

28th September 2020, 23:55
Hope you`re all staying safe and wearing your marrrrsk !

The only Marske I know relates to several place names in the North Riding.
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orson

29th September 2020, 15:24
Book and buck don't rhyme as far as I'm concerned. I don't mind people pronouncing buck as book but I don't like it when they pronounce book as buck. Look and luck are different too. The same goes for words like good and should.

I heard a programme on Radio 4 a few years ago about good books and it sounded as though they were talking about gad baks.
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tyke51

29th September 2020, 18:48
Hi Orson

What about wood and food?

I wonder if other languages have so many anomalies - probably not!
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