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Thanks, Jono, I liked that one! I don't like this in today's Times...

17 Daily column includes a drawing (8)

Has anyone - in the real world, not Crosswordland - referred to a 'daily' or the first part of the answer in the last 20 or 30 years? Not only do I think it's dated, I feel it's lazy setting.

I’m with you Malone, I’m sure there’s a better clue involving a fish!

Paul

My rough cough and hough ought to plough me through the borough lough, though not without a hiccough.

malone

I agree. I have worked as a cleaner and would have been annoyed if a client had referred to me as the daily or ****

Grunger, thanks. Some clues make me feel I'm in a Miss Marple story!

jigjag

sorry to hear you are not well

Jigjag, I know how much this will please you ... maybe you need a furlough?

Malone

Thanks, I do need one, in 2 senses. I had never heard of the word until the crisis and I am sure it is being pronounced incorrectly. There must be a pronunciation which will give an 11th variation of -ough. Any ideas?

A "woman who does". There's an old term for a cleaner which I doubt malone and grunger would approve of.

At least the "doing" refers to nothing more than housework but there was a radio programme in the 1940s called ITMA in which a Mrs Mopp's catch phrase was "can I do you now, sir?" It always got a laugh because the audience read something salacious into it.

Jigjag, I'd had enough of the 'ough' stuff, so skimmed over some of that. I remember you were underwhelmed with the recent Government use of 'furlough'. I didn't mind it as Chambers allowed it. I pronounce it 'furlow'. If I'm reading the symbols, in Chambers, correctly, that's OK. I have, though, found it easier to avoid using the word altogether.