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rosalind

7th January 2019, 19:13
I have a biography of Rosalind Franklin, she does seem to have had problems because she was a woman in a largely male world, and was Jewish. She was also quite prickly. Rosalind died of ovarian cancer aged only 38 and, as chris says, deceased people could not be nominated for a Nobel prize. She was a quite brilliant crystallographer.
Crick and Watkins needed the photo she took, the famous Photo 51, to make their breakthrough. Without that, Linus Pauling in America would have won the race to discover the structure of DNA. How they got the photo, and whether it was done fairly or not, is a matter for conjecture.

I was once at an international biophysics conference attended by Sir Francis Crick. We were all having sherry (!)- he had his back to us-when someone remarked to be careful what we said about our research in his presence. I have no idea if the inference is true or not.

It is ironic that here is a Wilkins-Franklin Building (part of the University of London) because they did not like each other, at all.
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chrise

7th January 2019, 19:26
Francis Crick had been an Honorary Fellow at my college (Churchill, Cambridge) but resigned in disgust when money was donated for a chapel to be built. I think that he returned much later when it was renamed from "Churchill College Chapel" to "The Chapel at Churchill College".

Sadly, however, this meant that we didn't overlap!
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elle

7th January 2019, 19:55
Hi, Rusty!
Oops! That was a typo , Rusty...I did have "arioso" as my answer.
I didn't know that (Cockney?) rhyming slang is used in Glasgow?
My cousin lived very close to there, in Kirkintilloch, all his life, and never once did I hear him use rhyming slang!
Not even in fun!
I learn something new every day.......
Yes, you are right, Crick, Watson , Wilkins and Franklin were involved in DNA......with Rosalind Franklin playing a major part in this.
Sadly she wasn't recognised as such, because the Nobel prize is not awarded posthumously...and she had died four years earlier from ovarian cancer.
No wind here, but it is feeling much colder.
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rusty

7th January 2019, 20:13
Hello, Elle!
Of course it was a typo!
I did not doubt you for a second!!
As regards the rhyming slang, it will only be certain sections of the community who may use it, in Glasgow, anyway.
I know one or two who use the odd word, but that is all.
I read a little about Franklin earlier.
The bit I read mentioned the prize not being awarded posthumously, then mentioned three prizewinners who were dead when it was awarded.
Dag Hammarskjold was one of them, but he was nominated before his death, so that may explain that one.
I remember him being killed in a plane crash, in 1961, I think.
I have been reading up on Collins Dictionary and apparently it contains proper nouns.
I looked up "Tay", "Somme", and "Ladysmith", and they are defined.
I will give thought to getting one, I think.
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elle

7th January 2019, 21:28
Hi, Rusty!
That is interesting about Proper Nouns being defined in the Collins dictionary.
They aren't in Chambers.
As an experiment, I tried "Ladysmith " on Google....
Both the online Collins and the Oxford defined it.
It is not in my own Collins dictionary, but then that is a very old edition.
I wonder when Collins started to include Proper Nouns in their book?
Do you know ?
I like Collins and often use it on the computer.
I have been watching "The Voice " all the way through this time!
There is some excellent talent.
I saw that only Tom turned for Peter Donegan.
A 'put up job' as some people are saying?
I don't know?
But I liked him...in fact, I liked him even better, having listened to him the second time around.
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rusty

7th January 2019, 21:53
Hello, Elle!
No proper nouns in Chambers, no.
I was surprised they were in Collins.
I do not know when that started, no.
The one my eye is on is a few years old, but "v.g." condition.
And I discovered, Collins have published editions with words missing, just like Chambers!
How old is your Collins?
I thought Peter Donegan had a good voice, until he started shouting the lyrics.
I did not like that, though the audience did.
So, Elle, what happens with Peter, now?
Does he stay on the show, or how is it worked?
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elle

7th January 2019, 22:14
Hi, Rusty!
My Collins is positively ancient! 1989!
"The Voice" has several stages.....
1. Blind auditions.
This is what we have now...where the coaches listen with their backs to the singer, and then "turn their chairs" if they like his/ her act.
If more than one coach turns, it is up to the competitor to choose whom he / she wants to be his / her coach.
So Peter will now stay on the Show under Tom's tutelage, reappearing at each of the following levels, if he is chosen at each stage to remain.
2. Battle rounds
3.Knockouts
4. Live shows .
This link will explain the following procedures better then I can......
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Voice_(franchise)
It is a good show!
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rusty

7th January 2019, 23:02
Hello, Elle!
I tried...I really did!
I attempted to read the link.
But, there are yards of reading and rules etc.
Way too complicated for me to grasp!
I'll stick with BGT!
I think Tom will be a good help to Peter.
You can let me know he's getting on.
The wind has dropped here, thank goodness!
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elle

8th January 2019, 09:40
Good morning, Rusty!
A cold , crisp bright morning!
So a brisk invigorating walk..... just the way I like it.
No, it wasn't a very clear link...
I will try to explain the stages that Peter (and others) will have to go through, as we come to them on the appropriate successive weeks
That might be simpler?
I am away shortly to have my hair cut.....
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rusty

8th January 2019, 10:02
Good morning, Elle!
Great day here, too, though colder than it has been.
No frost, though.
I've been to ASDA testing calculators!
An exciting life, I lead!
Their own brands seem excellent value.
I think I will record "The Voice" this week and see what I make of it!
I know Tom Jones and I'm sure I'll get to know the rest of them and how it works.
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