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malone

4th April 2018, 15:54
Glad you found your tinker, Rusty. Sly has a huge role (!) to play in The Taming Of The Shrew. This was news to me!
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rusty

4th April 2018, 15:58
Hello, Elle,
I watched quite a bit of the opening ceremony, though I could do without the singing!
Eilidh was dressed in a kilt and did very well.
I believe she was a very popular choice to carry the flag.
Yes, "anchoret" is a spelling I did not know.
Surely it is "bumble bee"?
12, is "Areopagites", the parse is easy enough, but it means a judge (in Greece).
I found it in Anne Bradford's book.
21. "one/over = won over" the "crew/eight"
Quite a good one, I thought.
Carrot and ginger soup!
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rusty

4th April 2018, 16:04
Hello, Malone!
I have heard of The Taming of the Shrew!
But I do not know any characters in it, but if you say there is a "Sly" in it, that'll do for me!
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malone

4th April 2018, 16:06
Rusty, I know the names of many Shakespeare plays, but only the major characters in the most famous ones.
I thought Areopagites was a wonderful word. It looks made up!
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rusty

4th April 2018, 16:35
Hello, Malone!
Did you know Areopagites ?
If so, I am impressed with your knowledge!
But Anne Bradford and me got there eventually!
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malone

4th April 2018, 16:44
Oh no, Rusty, I'd never seen Areopagites before - and didn't know they were 'judges'. I hope I'll get to use the word at some point, drop it casually into a conversation.
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rusty

4th April 2018, 16:55
That's the spirit, Malone!
I am not sure if I could ever remember it, to drop it into a conversation!
Now, this Taming of the Shrew play.
My favourite film is "The Quiet Man", and one of the main characters in it is "Mary Kate Danaher".
I read, or, was told, many years ago, that the character, "Mary Kate" was based on a leading character in "The Taming of the Shrew".
I do not know how true that is, but that is what I read/was told.
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elle

4th April 2018, 16:56
Hi, Rusty!
I checked in Chambers......"bumblebee" does appear to be one word.
I'm afraid that I cannot see the parsing for "Areopagites"?
"pages - "attendants", round "it"... but then what?
i am sorry if I am being dense here?
Now....Christopher Sly is a tinker in "The Taming of the Shrew", which, if my memory serves me correctly, is similar to "A Midsummer Night's Dream" in that it is a play within a play.....
The story of taming Kate is told to Christopher Sly......
I am having misgivings as to whether I have this right, so will dig out my copy of Shakespeare later, to confirm...or otherwise!
I would never have got the parsing for 21a, because I don't pronounce "one" like "won"!
Carrot and ginger soup sounds good!
I have never heard of that combination before.
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rusty

4th April 2018, 17:17
Hello, Elle!
I always thought it was two words, "bumble bee"!
Now, this is my interpretation of Areopagites, and I confess I am "winging" it here!
You have the second part parsed properly.
"Areo" is left.
My take is, "live" means "exist/s" or "is" or "are".
So we will take the "are"; "over" in cricket jargon is abbreviated to "o".
That gives the "Areo" bit.
Is that reasonable, think you?
I pronounce "won" and "one" the same way.
I would be intrigued by your pronunciation?!!
I got "free" carrots at ASDA, and thought it would make nice soup, and threw some ginger powder in to give it a bit of zing.
Tastes fine!
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elle

4th April 2018, 17:26
Hi, Rusty!
Yes, that parsing sounds good - I'm sorry I didn't see it.
I pronounce "one" like this
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/pronunciation/english/one
But I pronounce "won" like "wun"?
Maybe the latter is a local pronunciation?
I don't know...
How do you say the words?
I think we shall try your soup variation... we often make our own soups.
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