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rusty

10th October 2017, 12:25
Hello, Elle!
A "sou" was currency in France once upon a time, as AB has pointed out.
It was the "aphone" part I could not grasp.
I knew "ph" had something to do with acidic soil/gardening, but could not "get" the rest!
On reflection it is a good clue, I think!
I liked 5a, 10a, and 11d.
Very good news about your dog!
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elle

10th October 2017, 12:39
Hello, AB!
I did not consider that "change" meant "cash"......I was thinking of "alter"!
So that explains that part of the clue........
But what about "element"?
I thought o f" A ph one" but then wondered about the ne part being neon??......
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elle

10th October 2017, 12:49
Hi, Rusty!
I seem inclined to over complicate these wretched clues!
It didn't occur to me that change meant money!
I still feel the need to accommodate "element" though?
Maybe Ne for neon, as I suggested before?
I am happy with a ph 0.........
I haven't yet finished the crossword.......
I just looked at 13d and the clues around that, because you had raised a query.
I think (very) strong coffee is going to be needed if I am to carry on....!
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cerasus

10th October 2017, 12:52
This is discussed elsewhere - copied and pasted >>>>>>

SOUS (in France, once, change), A, PH ONE (strongly acidic element). On the PH scale the acid range is PH 0-6 so PH1 is pretty strong. Once again being very nit-picky, I wonder whether a single brass instrument qualifies as 'brass'. [On edit: Lou Reed has kindly suggested this alternative parsing: SOUS (in France, once, change), A (a), PH 0 (strongly acidic), NE (element - neon).
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rusty

10th October 2017, 14:10
Hello, Elle!
I think I should have held my tongue about the blooming clue, now!
(Just joking!)
I did not know there was a "ph 0".
In my innocence I thought it would start at ph 1!
Yes, you carry on, Elle!
It is a good puzzle!
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rusty

10th October 2017, 14:14
Hello, Cerasus!
Thank you for posting the info.
I am glad I am not the only one who was a tad puzzled by the clue.
I did not realise there was a "ph 0"
I was reading it as "ph one"!
Always learning!
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elle

10th October 2017, 14:42
Hi, Rusty!
Oops! We very nearly crossed!
I was just about to type, when I saw your latest post........!
Oh no, I am glad that you started the discussion about the clue.......
I have enjoyed the interchange of thoughts about it!
Yes, there is very definitely a ph of 0!
This (to me; be it 0 or one) was the easy bit of the clue!
I made heavy weather of the beginning part!
It would be nice to know for sure about "neon"..........
I have done all that I can of the puzzle.
I am stuck in the bottom right- hand corner......
Four clues that interlock.......25a, 27a, 22d and 23d.....?
Help?
I am going out for a quick walk.......back soon......



Thank you, Cerasus..,,,,, it is good to know that I am not completely at sea with the idea of "neon".
Who is Lou (he/ she?) Reed?
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cerasus

10th October 2017, 14:52
Elle
Lou Weed/ Reed is a contributor on the Times site where crosswords are discussed. Other contributors suggested that the definition was
"element of brass" !


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rusty

10th October 2017, 15:02
Hello, Elle!
Ah, you scientists have the edge on me with your ph ratings!
I do not think much of 25a.
I shall start you off.
"Pet circles round". Pet=cat, round=o, giving "coat".
22, hint, Cassius Clay, the boxer, became Muhammad "???".
23, definition is "quid" as in tobacco.
A big "swallow" quickly, would be the drink.
Up, means reversed.
27 "bird", think "prison" slang, Elle.
The "call" bit, could be phoning.
There!
You should sail through now!
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chrise

10th October 2017, 15:14
It's actually possible to have negative pHs. It's a calculated rather than an assigned scale,

Now the technical bit! It's actually the negative logarithm of the hydrogen ion concentration. For example, 1/10th of a mole per litre would be 10^-1. The logarithm is the power of 10, so is -1; the pH is thus 1.

Concentrated hydrochloric acid has a hydrogen ion concentration of getting on for 100 moles per litre. If it was 100, this would be 10^2; the logarithm is 2, hence the pH would be -2.
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