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rusty

5th July 2017, 21:39
Hello, Elle!
Come on!
Cavendish is just below caveman in Chambers!
It caught my eye!
Chambers has an idea the tobacco may have been named after a man called Cavendish.
I shall try and find out.
I have a dim memory of there being cave paintings discovered somewhere in France?
Maybe near where the Tour went the other day in Neandertal land?
Did Neandertals do any painting?
But they were called paintings rather than printings, surely?
I do not know about Nadal, but I agree about the TV watching.
I find it very wearying.
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elle

5th July 2017, 22:11
Hi, Rusty!
Yes...but you did say that you were looking at "caveman" in Anne's B's book!
Not Chambers!
It didn't occur to me that you then went and checked it out in Chambers, too.
Neanderthals lived in caves giving way to the name "cavemen"
I believe that paintings on cave walls were discovered in Spain, presumed to be done by the Neanderthals.
Though as you say, they were "paintings" not "prints", but then Anne B does often have "loose" terms?
Rafa won against the American Donald Young in three straight sets!
It is good to see him back on form!
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pigale

5th July 2017, 22:12
Rusty,

Les Grottes de Lascaux, in Dordogne (South West) were
discovered in 1940.
If you google 'grottes de Lascaux, you will find a site and you
can even click on 'translate this page'.

You may have heard about it on one of the TDF, some years ago?
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pigale

5th July 2017, 22:16
PS - In fact, I am sure I remember telling you that I was lucky to have
seen the original grotte when a child on a driving holiday with my
parents. The real grotte has now been closed so that the
paintings might not get more damaged by air.
I believe a replica has been created for people to visit - but don't
quote me !
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rusty

5th July 2017, 23:06
Hello, Elle!
In my innocence, I would expect them to be called "cave paintings" rather than "caveman paintings", though?
It would be interesting if Anne B could tell us the connection between "caveman" and "print/er".
And i am not sure which country the Neandertal museum place was?
Could have been Germany or Luxemburg.
The Tour gets everywhere!
Well done Rafa!
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rusty

5th July 2017, 23:13
Hello, Pigale,
Yes, that is familiar, now!
I had Sochaux in my head.
Goodness knows why!
Yes, I shall Google to find a bit more, and try YouTube, too.
I am a big fan of YouTube!
I certainly remember the name Lascaux, from you or le Tour.
The Tour is quite educational, I find.
The commentators usually tell about the places along the route.
I spotted a herd of cows today who decided to gallop alongside the fence in their field to keep up with the riders.
You wonder what is going through their heads?
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rusty

5th July 2017, 23:47
Hello, Elle and Pigale!
I have been exploring!
I went on YouTube and discovered that the Neandertal Museum is just outside Dusseldorf, Germany, (where Le Tour started this year)
There are good videos to learn all about the Neandertal folk.
Then I went to Pigale's caves at Lascaux.
The videos were excellent.
I also came across less well known cave paintings at a place called Chauvet, in the Ardeche region.
They are fairly recently discovered and were immediately closed to the public to preserve them.
There are good videos of them however.
Was a most enjoyable time exploring!
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rusty

6th July 2017, 00:02
Hello, Elle,
This is a quote regarding the Chauvet Cave.
"In addition to the paintings and other human evidence, they also discovered fossilized remains, PRINTS, and markings from a variety of animals, some of which are now extinct."
So, prints can be found in caves! The link!
Anne Bradford is correct!
The paintings are around 30,000 years old.
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elle

6th July 2017, 07:09
Good morning, Rusty!
My goodness, you have been very thorough in your research!
And it is good to know that I was on the right lines with my suggestion of "cavemen" and prehistoric "paintings", even if I could not directly tie it up with "prints", as you have managed to do so successfully, with the quote regarding the Chauvet Cave.
Very well done!
It has been a very oppressive night here....I have been up since 5.30...
It feels fresher downstairs with a through current of air and two fans!
We are told there will be thunderstorms later...but hopefully my dog will get her walk in with my friend before this happens.
She (the dog, not my friend) is terrified of thunder.
I wonder if Wimbledon will also get the thunderstorms........
As far as I can make out, the Diamond League at Lausanne is showing live on EuroSport Player at 7pm this evening?
If I do not watch this then, there are Highlights at the w/e on BBC.
It all depends on the tennis situation.......
You will have a busy day?
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rusty

6th July 2017, 08:59
Good morning, Elle!
Goodness knows what the weather has in store for today.
Drizzly so far!
Yes, Diamond League is on this evening.
I think Laura Muir is running?
The search for "prints" and "cavemen" was quite enjoyable.
I have enormous gaps in my knowledge on many things, and it was nice to fill in a little gap or two!
I think YouTube is a great tool for finding out about stuff!
Off for my paper now, then I'll see how the Irish Open is doing!
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