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ginge

5th December 2014, 23:14
Congratulations peterm, cheers BBM2.
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claxbypluckacre

5th December 2014, 23:18
Well done, peterm and thanks for the vote, mattrom
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les40

5th December 2014, 23:24
Well done peter, great clue.

Thanks Marty for the challenge.

congrats on the joint second place ixion.

I noticed your post about the Chambers this week ixion and I have to agree, I have copies of 11th & 12th edition and can remember a while back when me and AB discussed the differences between those two. It seems they don't keep parity in their series.
Anyway, I have to say that the Chambers did let me down this week with my PR entry.
Not sure if all noticed, but I added a '!' to my clue to signify an &lit
The problem was, if anyone checked 'Alter' in their chambers, they would have only seen - Alter with a def of 'to castrate [archaic]
This was the same in 11th & 12th Edition
My beef is that I once heard it mentioned in an American TV show and checked it to find that it is North American term (and also Australian)
I trawled through some of the online dictionaries, and to my surprise, it's only mentioned as a N Amaercan term in The OED
I now realise that I must have checked it back then in my OED copy (a hefty tome) and haven't had to since.
So, my question is: Is there a book out there that actually gives a brief definition of all words and all their origins and usages (to save trawling through the OED) or do we stick to good old researching all methods of investigation to get the full picture?

Sorry if all that sounds a bit rantish (I don't think that's a word !)
Anyway folks, just for the record, my spin on the PR challenge was supposed to go a bit like this.

Scalp or castrate ('scalp or' to signify the alternative)
castrate (North American) = Alter
(North American) Indian = native

North American being the partial &lit

I should get out more... Goodnight all
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les40

5th December 2014, 23:29
Great vid clip Marty.

Not sure if you know but Peter Kay has been on TV only this week with an announcement that he's gonna film some more of Phoenix Nights soon.
Take care

The Phoenix will rise again!
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ixion

5th December 2014, 23:52
Congratulations peterm, thanks bbm2
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mattrom

6th December 2014, 00:48
Well done, Peterm and thanks, BBM2
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paul

6th December 2014, 00:53
Well done Peter, thanks for the clue and for setiig Marty, and thanks for the vote, CBPA
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susan

6th December 2014, 06:44
Congratulations peterm and thanks to bigbadmarty2 for setting the clue.
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chrise

6th December 2014, 07:40
Congrats, peterm, and thanks BBM2
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peterm

6th December 2014, 11:14
Thanks bigbad, and thanks for the votes ixion and Les. Like the prize too - very apposite. The votes were widely spread this week but I'm feeling a bit of a fraud winning with just 2.

I'm still scratching my head over your post 12 ixion. Can't help feeling I'm missing something profound. If you (or anyone else) could put me out of my misery I'd be grateful.

I'll be back next Thursday. I'll be out during the day and will try to post earlyish in the morning, or failing that, late in the afternoon.

See you next week.
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