I think that must be right. I read in the original thread on here that these type of clues (there are a few more clued without definition) have answers that are listed under "thing" in Chambers. They are changed in the grid to men's names afterwards.
Thank you for the answer. I was going to ask for help with a few of the others, but it is such a convoluted device that I really don't understand or see the point of, so I won't bother.
Thank you for this one.