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elle

21st February 2014, 16:21
In view of all the mistakes we've been encountering recently in the Times2 crosswords, I thought you might be interested in one I came across today in the Times2 Jumbo Gen. Know. book 7.
Clue: Fictional baron giving name to a mental disorder (11)
The answer (and I checked through various of my medical textbooks to make sure) should have been MUNCHAUSEN (only 10 letters) The answer given was spelt MUNCHHAUSEN. I had the devil of a job solving the crossword until I realised that everything was thrown out of kilter by the misspelling!
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chrise

21st February 2014, 16:24
Hi elle
Look at this Wikipedia entry:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baron_M%C3%BCnchhausen
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elle

21st February 2014, 17:04
Interesting, Chris!
because check this out:

Münchausen syndrome - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Münchausen_syndrome‎

Münchausen syndrome is a psychiatric factitious disorder wherein those affected feign disease, illness, or psychological trauma to draw attention, sympathy,......

Who / what to believe?!

but our med textboks do spell it with one 'h'!
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chrise

21st February 2014, 17:12
I have actually read Richard Asher's book, surprisingly. (My wife, who is a doctor, gave it to me for interest - it is very readable. I recommend it!.)

It seems that the fictional(ised) character is spelled Munchausen, while the original, real, person was called Munchhausen.

I looked it up as I had a vague memory of having seen both spellings before. Asher seems to have picked the fictional version (understandably) for his syndrome.
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elle

21st February 2014, 17:27
Thanks for that info. (My husband and I are Biomedical Scientists, specialising in Hamatology.)
However, based on what you said about the fictional character being spelt with only one 'h' - then the answer to the clue is still wrong, isn't it? as the clue does specify "fictional baron".
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chrise

21st February 2014, 17:30
Yes, I think you are right there, elle.

It is well worth getting hold of the Asher book. Quite apart from Munchausen's syndrome, "ruptured plantaris syndrome" is interesting, and "hydropneumothorax" is hilarious!
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mamya

21st February 2014, 17:33
It seems wherever you look you get a different approach to this...


http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Fictitious+Illness
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elle

21st February 2014, 17:36
I will try to get a copy of the book - thanks for the recommendation! Have a good evening!
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chrise

21st February 2014, 17:39
And you elle!

(Looking forward to mine - out for a curry, then back to watch Wales v. France!)
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elle

21st February 2014, 17:58
I should have asked you for the title of the book that you recommend by Richard Asher about
Munch(h)ausen? I see that he's written quite a few books, not to mention medical articles in The Lancet.
And BTW, are you Welsh, then?
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