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rusty

11th August 2018, 11:57
Hello, Elle!
No word on the door?
Maybe the neighbour fixed it?
The race walking is a strange sport!
I shall wait until the evening events at the stadium.
Got a text earlier from Miss La Bamba suggesting a bacon roll tomorrow!
So, that will be fine.
Hope there are no wasps as LB and wasps are not a match made in Heaven!
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elle

11th August 2018, 12:53
Hi, Rusty!
Wasps and I are not exactly compatible either!
I have every sympathy for Miss L-B!
Now......9a.......
I am still not understanding the parsing of this clue, despite John Mac's kindly intervention?
I can see that if one writes it out as John Mac describes, "annotate" is 'hidden', but there is no indication to do this......or any instruction to remove the two superfluous letter "m"s?
Am I being obtuse here?
I also cannot parse 12d?
I have "dating agency" = "union organiser" as definition.
But cannot see the rest of the parsing?
I liked 2d; 4d; 8d; and 22a.
"Carding" in 15a was a new word for me, in the context in which it was used!
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rusty

11th August 2018, 13:33
Hello, Elle.
The wasps are only looking for sugar.
Leave them be and you'll be fine.....I hope!
I can't see how to parse 9a.
Beginning to wonder if it is a wayward clue?
Maybe "we" are obtuse!
12, I think archaelogy may involve dating old stuff.
I have heard of carbon dating for ancient things.
A "reasonable" clue.
I knew carding.
There were lots of mills in town here and carding was a technique used all the time.
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elle

11th August 2018, 15:24
Hi, Rusty!
I developed a fear of wasps when I was but a student.
The bride of one of our hospital porters was stung badly by wasps on their honeymoon, and she went into a vegetative state.
It was a frightening story, and she only made a partial recovery.
Logically, I am aware that only a very small percentage of people stung by wasps will go into anaphyalctic shock....and even fewer have a cerebral infarction as a result.
But it doesn't stop me fearing and avoiding wasps.......
I have completed the Concise Jumbo ...but decided my brain is not up to Dealing with the Jumbo Cryptic today!
Instead I shall take the dog out!
Back in a bit......
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rusty

11th August 2018, 15:32
Hello, Elle!
Your wasps tale is a really cheery one for brightening up a Saturday afternoon!
Taking the dog for a walk sounds like a good idea.
No word on the "door" ?
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malone

11th August 2018, 15:38
Rusty, Elle, believe it or not, I can actually see how 9 A works...
Annotate = comment on.

What one needs to make a mate a man - ie how to change the word 'mate' to the word 'man'.... An Not Ate, read it as An, not Ate . So drop the 'ate' from Mate, replace it with An.
Hope this makes sense!
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rusty

11th August 2018, 16:03
Aha, Malone, splendid!
Makes plain sense to me.
I was thinking it had to do with chess.
Been looking at for some time now!
Well done!
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malone

11th August 2018, 16:05
Thanks, Rusty. I could explain it perfectly to myself, but didn't know if I'd get the sense, meaning, workings over properly. (PS It might not be correct, of course - but it works anyway!).
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rusty

11th August 2018, 16:17
Malone, your parsing and explanations were bang on.
I can fully understand now.
I just could not quite see it, earlier.
I hate criticising a setter (I think in the main they do a smashing job!) but was beginning to wonder if there was something not quite right with the clue.
I am glad you happened along!
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malone

11th August 2018, 16:31
Rusty, because the setters are on their own wavelengths and solvers are on their own wavelengths, there are bound to be times when a clue doesn't gel. This doesn't mean there's anything wrong with it, it's just that we can all see different things (or see nothing!). I sometimes feel that good clues are like good jokes - they're simply not as good if they have to be explained!
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