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elle

12th March 2017, 23:41
Hi, Rusty!
Further to my last post about "Call the Midwife" - tonight's was the last episode in this series!
So I shall be able to record next Sunday's session of "The Voice" and duly watch it "ad-less" later on.
I had meant to say that the trilogy of books covered only the first series of "Call the midwife".
The further episodes were specially written for the television series, and were not memoirs of Jennifer Worth at all.
They are well written though, and in keeping with the beginning of the programme.
We were both wrong about the use of "upkept"........
Kenyatta has just explained that "upkeep" is a noun only.
We had thought mistakenly that there was a verb, too.
We live and learn!
And on that note....I am going to bed...........

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rusty

13th March 2017, 00:08
Hello, Elle!
Yes, I read Kenyatta's post.
Quite interesting.
I had a look online for an example of the word and found this,
in Wiktionary,
"Upkept. Simple past tense and past participle of upkeep."
Is there a difference between "simple past tense" and "past tense"?
I have no idea, and I have no idea what a "past participle" is.
I also found this,
"Dictionaries are upkept by academics who are authorities on the respective language."
There are other examples, too.
So, folk other than you, Elle, are using "upkept" as a word.
Anyway, you used the word and I understood exactly what you meant.
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jazzgirl

13th March 2017, 08:02
Good day
I am keeping up ( (with the upkeep)
The one problem with Wiki is that contribtions are made by volunteers who include students, dabbblers, (even spammers) so not always reliable. I would prefer to go by Chambers and the like . All of my dictionaries at home say upkeep is solely a noun.
I am off to keep up the upkeep. Have a good day all
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jazzgirl

13th March 2017, 08:04
... (deliberate spelling mistake to see if you are awake )
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jazzgirl

13th March 2017, 08:15
PS Don't try and burgle my home, or you will have 'him indoors' to contend with plus a ferocious chihuahua
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rusty

13th March 2017, 09:43
Good morning, Jazzgirl!
I agree about Tom, Dick, and Harry, contributing to Wiki.
Not ideal, at all, at all!
I found examples of "upkept" but not in a dictionary.
I attempted the OED but could not access it.
Not in my Chambers, either.
I agree "upkeep" is a noun.
But "upkept" to me sounds an acceptable word, which is what Elle was asking.
Anyroad, enjoy keeping up or upkeeping as your day goes on!
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jazzgirl

13th March 2017, 09:47
Hi rusty
Just on way out. No forum for me today. Him indoors only checked Chambers and Collins for me.... he said that was enough !
Yes, upkept seems OK to me. Language evolves.
(thought I had better mention the chihuaua... you have moat and piranhas ;)
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rusty

13th March 2017, 09:58
Jazzgirl,
And three fine hounds.
Fang, Rosie, and Hector!
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elle

13th March 2017, 09:59
Good morning, Rusty!
What a beautiful day we have here........the sun is shining, the sky is blue...and the temperature is already 14C!
What more could we ask for early March?
Is it nice in your neck of the woods?
I see you and Jazzgirl have already been discussing "upkept"!
What have I started......?!
I found your reference to "upkeep" as a verb in Wikipedia...but cannot find it elsewhere?
I have checked in Chambers; my Concise Oxford; and the online Collins dictionary, but they only give it as a noun.
But I like "upkept"!
I shall see that my "new" garden (when I get it) is upkept to a high standard, even if I have to do the "upkeep" myself!!!
What are you planning for today?



Hi, Jazzy, don't forget Hector, Fang and Rosie........
Have a good day!
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rusty

13th March 2017, 11:19
Good day to you, Elle!
Lovely morning here!
I typed "upkept" into Google and went from there.
If it is not in Chambers or Collins we are struggling!
I would like to have a look in the OED but that may not be possible.
I follow MacMillan's dictionary on Twitter so may look there.
I have my painter arriving around lunchtime to see what I am needing painted. That is all my plans.
The afternoon? Who knows.
The tennis players are quite adamant that Sharapova should not get a wild card for the Porsche tournament.
There is an article in The Times headed,
"Brailsford led a culture of fear at British Cycling- Pooley"
Emma Pooley tells it as it is!
She also uses a phrase I have not heard before.
"A fish rots from the head", ?
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