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elle

19th October 2016, 15:53
Hi, Rusty!
We had a nice walk, but the good weather hasn't lasted.
It is quiet dampish now and very chilly.
We did well to go out when we did.
I am glad that I was right after all about Mary....... I was beginning to doubt myself!
But as I said before I went out.....I have a feeling that you could be correct, too.......?
because the more I think about it, the more sure I am that the storyline was all altered in the film?
Have you Googled the film as well as the book?
I wouldn't mind betting that the film assigns a different role to Mary?
I don't want to look it up myself because I don't want to read too much about it as that would spoil the book for me.
I know I have read it before ...but most of it is very hazy......
Tell me the bare bones about Mary without divulging too much info?
Book versus film?


No problem, Pigale!
Yes, as Rusty told you, I have read the book years ago....it is just that my surfacing memories of book and film are beginning to differ......
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rusty

19th October 2016, 16:22
Hello, Elle,
The book says Mary was killed in a fire in a hotel.
In the film I am almost certain Miss Brodie says that "stupid Mary MacGregor has been killed in Spain. She joined the wrong side".
But I could be wrong.
Long time since I saw the film!
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pigale

19th October 2016, 16:32
Hi again,

without saying too much, apparently in the film, some girls are 'composites'. I'll say no more.

Having read the synopsis of both book and film (which was my reason for 'googling' in the first place), I do not think it would be my type of either book or film. We are all different!
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rusty

19th October 2016, 16:36
Hello, Elle!
Now, this is from the film, so should not affect your book!
In the film Mary MacGregor goes to Spain as her brother is fighting with the forces of Franco.
Mary is killed before she finds her brother.
The implication being she joined the International brigade.
(The wrong side according to Miss Brodie.)
Sandy condemns Miss Brodie for putting her Fascist ideas into Mary's head, and blames her for Mary's death.
No wonder I was a-muddled!
They changed the plot for the film!
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rusty

19th October 2016, 16:46
Hello, Pigale!
It was a very good film.
Maggie Smith, who played Jean Brodie, won an Academy Award for her role.
The girl who played Sandy (I forget her name!) won an award too.
I did not realise so much of the book was changed for the film.
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elle

19th October 2016, 17:29
Hi, Rusty!
There we go.............honours are even!
We were both "right"!
I was beginning to suspect that it must be something like that - changing the plot of the book for the film, as you say!
And now that Pigale has mentioned that some of the girls are "composites" in the film, the mists are lifting a little for me .....
I think in the film Mary 's character was mixed with that of Joyce Emily, the girl who WAS actually killed in Spain....
(I can see that not only do I need to read the book again, but maybe watch the film, too!)
Usually, I do not enjoy films where the book storyline has been altered , but I did enjoy Maggie Smith et al in the film!
I have the impression that Sandy's character came over well, too?
Now who was it who played Sandy?
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rusty

19th October 2016, 18:23
Hello, Elle!
Pamela Franklin played Sandy.
Sandy became a nun.
The film won a Golden Globe award for "Best Song"?
I do not remember a song in it?
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jazzgirl

19th October 2016, 18:52
I have seen the film, but not read the book. I met Rod McKuen in 1961 (with his dog Kelly)and I have his record of "Bend down and touch me" which I believe was featured in the film, but I do not know if it won any awards.
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rusty

19th October 2016, 19:13
Hello, Jazzgirl,
I cannot remember a song in the film, but Wikipedia can.
Rod McKuen's song won a Golden Globe award.
It was nominated for an Academy Award but lost out to "Raindrops Keep Falling on My Head".
Maggie Smith's husband was in the film, too.
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elle

19th October 2016, 19:18
Thank you for that, Jazzgirl.

Personally, I cannot remember any song in the film - it was a very long time ago when I saw it!
But I do remember and really liked Rod McKuen.
How great that you actually met him!

However, I've been looking it up on Google and Rod McKuen seems to have a number of songs to commemorate the character of Miss Jean Brodie.
I think the song that won the Golden Globe award was "Jean"?
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