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AB:with all due respect,if that is the setter's intention, I find it incredibly disordered/twisted! Have received no better explanation so far,though,I must admit!

kite: You sound frustrated. Come over to Clue Chain.

Greedy kite, no need for respect... I too think it's convoluted and inelegant and I hope that it isn't the right explanation...

What on earth is Clue Chain? I still have a lot to learn about basics,evidently! And THAT OTHER FORUM has produced the obviously correct answer STAKEholder! I'm late, I'm late, for a very important date!

I have stakeholder (sh for mum) with take inside and older for senior.

sorry greedy kite - didn't refresh - your answer wasn't there when I replied

To scarlett:never mind! no use crying over spilt milk etc!
To aristo:oops!Last time I looked CC wasn't working,now you're getting on for 200!Must sleep first:perhaps later.Frust (as the Germans say) forgotten.Have a nice day (and that means all of you who helped)!!!

Chambers gives "take" as a synonym for "engage"