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smithsax

10th February 2018, 16:22
There are no changes in unchecked cells as each change leads to the need to alter another (crossing) answer. The final change is back in 13a.
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xwordfan

10th February 2018, 16:38
Didn't we have this theme before in an old Speccie / Inquisitor/ EV ?
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smartie

10th February 2018, 16:39
There are two triplets in 23d - of course, I didn't notice and chose the wrong one, which confused for a while.
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foinaven

10th February 2018, 16:58
Got there at last, though not so sure I did the alteratioins in the right order. I will have to check this, but I believe the resulting grid is correct.

Had I realised what 13a was, it would be have been much simpler, as that would have led me to the Object. As it is, I had no idea about the theme, and of course it describes what is going on beautifully.
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dryden

10th February 2018, 17:12
After my impasse I just hopped around a bit and worked on remaining entries. All my new entries are supported by triplets in the clues, but I confess the object eludes me as I just get nonsense even allowing for some ambiguities. To be picked up tomorrow.

I rather share the feelings of those finding the endgame tedious, though, to be fair, there aren't too many options at each change, and in some cases, such as 13d, there is only one possible altered entry.
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meursault

10th February 2018, 17:22
Foinaven, your sequence in comment 26 was fine other than the typo (11A should read 16A), and I was grateful to have this in order to check that I wasn't all at sea.

After 14D, my sequence then went : 24A, 10D, 9A, 15D, 7A, 20D, 4A and 6D.
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s_pugh

10th February 2018, 17:55
Is 10d in the BRB Meursault? I've been stuck on this for an hour or so and assume that 24a gives it an O but can't see how that ties in with 10d generating a G for the thematic item. A nudge would be appreciated!
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dryden

10th February 2018, 18:10
My 10d is in BRB and 24ac doesn't give it an O. But I have some doubts about that area anyway because 14d is still a word after a change in a crossing entry. This is just the sort of trap that Pointer likes to set.
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s_pugh

10th February 2018, 18:16
Interesting, as I was just coming to that idea. My impression from the preamble that all changes corrected one word and in turn generated a new non-word. I can get things to work if I make 14dn end in S (which would leave 24ac as a new real word), then change 24ac by a character to make 14dn a non-word. I'd already spotted a similar potential problem near the finale with 4ac, which would be a real word throughout. Does that fit in with your line of thinking?
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wintonian

10th February 2018, 18:45
The final answer at 10dn is not in the 2014 edition of Chambers, but it’s in earlier editions, and I guess in the 2016 edition. It’s one of around 500 words that were highlighted in the edition before 2014 but inadvertently omitted in 2014.

If we have the same words, then the intermediate entries in 24ac and 4ac are genuine words, rather than non-words. I didn’t spot this as I was working backwards by this stage.
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