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crates

20th March 2017, 03:52
29D - No clash- stone + with (and) + early english
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orson

20th March 2017, 10:44
I'm a bit behind with this one. I have FAYCEQ as the first six letters given by the extra words in the across clues and messages 2 and 3 here suggest that if I google that I should get the beginning of an old proverb but I get nothing of the sort!
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orson

20th March 2017, 10:50
Got it! by splitting up the letters appropriately and googling the letters from the down clues.
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mattman

20th March 2017, 15:28
Thanks crates.
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catkin

20th March 2017, 16:12
After a quick start I have been limping towards the finishig line. I am stuck on the abbreviation. Can anyone provide some hint for what I am looking for? I assume it is thematic but have not found abbreviations in my searches on the theme. Also my last unanswered clue is 10d. And since I seem to have most of the letters (E?ESES) with a clash in the fourth cell, this is particularly frustrating.
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smartie

20th March 2017, 17:27
Catkin - the abbreviation is not thematic. It is the first 3 letters of 9d after insertiing new bars. In 10d your missing letter is m. Parsing the clue gives all letters of manuscripts (mss) introduced by base (e). Answer is a plural word for vomiting. Hope this helps!
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crates

20th March 2017, 17:44
Catkin - 10D - The 3 letter abbrev, for manuscripts - each letter proceeded by the logarithmic base (E) - meaning vomitings (would find in Chambers under emet,,,). The abbrev. 9D (3 letters) is not thematic but just as appears in grid.
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catkin

20th March 2017, 18:02
Thank you Crates and Smartie. I was so close with 10d but saw the singular word without recalling how the end of the word changes for the plural.
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crates

20th March 2017, 18:41
catkin - You're welcome - but when I posted the response from smartie was not showing. ('I'll be late for my own funeral!)
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smartie

20th March 2017, 19:37
Don't worry Crates - better 2 replies than none ;-)
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