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prospero

6th October 2014, 15:10
(my posts won't post first time ... I'm cybernetically challenged). Shouldn't be posting answers but you are right Livs.
16a works with the whole clue if you make the second half mean appearance
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livs

6th October 2014, 15:35
I posted my answer thinking it must be wrong, so it wouldn't matter! Then I realised how it works.

For me, the whole of 16A doesn't work if the second part is a verb, as it would be plural with a singular subject. I think it must be an event, a place where 16D Part 1 wouldn't 16D Part 2.

I hope that's as clear as mud and doesn't give anybody any untoward help :-)
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cmk

6th October 2014, 15:56
All done, I think,and I agree with what seems to be the necessary change.

However, I'm puzzled by the reference to 25 across in conjunction with 16 across & down as mentioned by prospero (and, I think concurred with by livs)

I can't see any connection at all and can't actually parse 25 across, though it's more or less the only word that will fit. Any enlightenment, please?
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prospero

6th October 2014, 15:58
not a verb - but if you take the second part of 16a in the sense it would have if it had "no" in front of it, it works as the mutually exclusive alternative to 16d
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prospero

6th October 2014, 16:01
the shell of 25a are potential players according to the 16a/d dichotomy
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cmk

6th October 2014, 16:13
My goodness - how devious is that? Thank you!
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james

7th October 2014, 13:30
Can someone help with parsing 21D please ?

I'm assuming point = S, and direction = SE.

Bottoms fluid?
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james

7th October 2014, 13:31
Parsing for 5D? "Boring carry-on"?
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sudokulover

7th October 2014, 13:46
enema without the E ??
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prospero

7th October 2014, 13:57
plural
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