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peterm

4th April 2011, 16:02
I, too, am stuck on 17ac. Could Hell's Angel be BIKER? 3 of the letters would fit with those already checked, and there would be a k to drop, but I'm clutching at straws.
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ajt

4th April 2011, 16:20
Thank you Fearsome. I have been trying to make an anagram with biker, grie and ave for some time. I can't think of a wine with anything like that collection of letters. Like you, I've already spent more time on this than the rest of the puzzle
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cmk

4th April 2011, 16:40
17 across is causing me problems too. Any idea why it it has a letter count (4,7) which differs from the number of spaces, whereas the other 'tipsy' answers don't. Is that a clue?
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peterm

4th April 2011, 16:52
cmk - one of the letters is removed, in accordance with the preamble. That is the case with all the "tipsy" answers.
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ixion

4th April 2011, 16:53
cmk

I think the letter count at 17a is an error - it is treated as the other wines - for the wines remove c or k, for the others remove p and t.

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ajt

4th April 2011, 16:55
I think it must be an anagram of the letters bikergrieave, because after removing one, the rest fit as prescribed in the spaces. Must be a very obscure vintage!
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ixion

4th April 2011, 16:59
It's Bulls Blood of Eger (in translation) - you've got an extra e for the anag AJT
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rob pendragon

4th April 2011, 16:59
I was wondering that. I have four clues to go (as I'm not confident about 10A). but only three special words, so 17A may not be one of them. It certainly doesn't look like it.
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rob pendragon

4th April 2011, 17:02
OK, forget that last entry of mine!
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ajt

4th April 2011, 17:04
Thanks Ixion - I'll try again.

Pendragon - 17ac is definitely one of the "special" words
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