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david cutler

14th August 2010, 19:54
Thanks. I think my problem with this puzzle is that, at least traditionally with cryptics, there should be a definitional element in the clue. So, for example, the clue might have read "Dr. Castier gives up."
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clevertask

14th August 2010, 20:49
That's why all those without strict definitions had question marks - that tells you something untoward is going on. Paul used to do ones like today's quote often. I think it actually helped having several of them. I don't think it is outside of crossword clue grammar but it is quite challenging when first encountered. I thought today's puzzle very refreshing.
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big sewer

15th August 2010, 09:51
Help please with 12a and 14d (is it leaf miner)? Thanks
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ajt

15th August 2010, 09:54
14d is an anagram of i'm clear, and no, "Ground" indicates an anagram
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big sewer

15th August 2010, 10:01
Thank you AJT I didn't Know "ground" meant clue was an anagram good learning curve for me.
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ajt

15th August 2010, 10:13
"Ground" as in minced. All sorts of similar words can mean look for an anagram.
Now you should have the last letter of 12ac; think of sound, as is, say, telephone, gramophone, etc, etc.
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henry

15th August 2010, 11:41
Hi,

I've got Phonic for 12a. Greek Character PH, on but why is 'a ton' ic. Is c an abbreviation for ton?
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giles

15th August 2010, 11:49
Hi Henry,

The greek letter is PHI and c is indeed an abbreviation for one hundred. PH is a measure of acidity.
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clevertask

15th August 2010, 11:50
C - roman numeral for a hundred
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wolfie

15th August 2010, 19:52
Not just difficult, but unfair - and ugly. I can just about live with the lack of definition in the themed clues, but Paul is surely out of order with, for example, 'Went I re hole?' A cryptic clue must be a comprehensible English sentence or phrase, not just a random set of words. And 'Dr Castier' is just lazy setting. Anyone can invent a surname.
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