FAC that was a bit nasty. Did you get out of bed the wrong side? Crosswords and other puzzles are a bit of fun and an excellent workout for the brain, but there's no need for such venom. K I find that a complete answer with explanation can help me to analyse the way a crossword setter's mind works especially an unfamiliar one. As to other coments about the unseemly quickness of postings on this site, sometimes when you've tried all possibilities, including dictionaries which are classed as cheating by some crossword purists, then you want to get on and by posting and receiving help then you can. Not everyone has the time or inclination to spend all week on one crossword, and what about all the others that are published every week, not to mention crossword books? I always enjoy this site for the intelligent, helpful answers and the polite acknowledgement of help received and appreciated. I hope we don't start to get curmdgeonly posts on a regular basis over something that is supposed to be a pleasurable leisure pursuit and not a blood sport.