Thanks Felicity, got those two now. Still have about fourteen to get.....some are probably obvious but still stuck....for example 30,45,49,51,64. Drives me mad every quiz when some of them appear to me, some I really have to search for and some I just don't know whereto start. Plus I can't find the Chambers in my local reference library - or adult learning centre as it insists on being called nowadays(!) Will have to get to Hay or somewhere to buy one.