Crossword Help Forum
Forum Rules

men - OR (other rank)
unproductive = LEAN
first hint of = (S)un

Thanks again chrise and mamya. Can always rely on you to explain. Must try to remember this OR for men, I think it was in last week's puzzle. Now I'm finished I can get on with the week.

we all learn every week .

You are very welcome, mary

Yes - "OR" = "men" is quite common in crosswords.