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#### unclued

5th October 2012, 18:28
The tunnel is the hidden method of making the solution possible. Without it there would never be a complete way round. Therefore you don't count the tunnel as a bridge - clever eh? Good luck!
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#### uncle_w

5th October 2012, 23:25
Unclued, clever as you say ! Still a long way to go, and Listener 4210 imminent so time is a factor! Thanks all the same.
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#### leon

6th October 2012, 11:26
Im giving up, I just cant find a way round
assuming tay,london,foot,humpback,toll,pontoon,bay,tunnel are correct.
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#### spoyler

6th October 2012, 13:04
I don't think it's possible without crossing at all. I wonder if we're just banned from crossing on the thematic items, and from going back over them. The wikipedia analysis of the original puzzle reduces the problem to nodes (points) and connections between them ("edges"). The nodes are points (zero dimensional), hence the notion of "crossing" there doesn't arise.
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#### unclued

6th October 2012, 18:39
I started at London and went via the tunnel to Tay, Humpback, Bay, Pontoon, Foot and Toll in thaqt order. Does anyone else agree?
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#### turast

6th October 2012, 19:36
The stuff in the preamble about lines being drawn from the CENTRE of cells at either end of the thematic items is there to allow a little bit of jiggery-pokery on the island. The original problem was not solvable with an odd number of items, so Merlin's additional crossing makes it an even number. You have to start ON the island, because the direction of travel on the items means you have to come off it three times and onto it twice. The finish has to cost you money, or there's no way to get to the harbour. You will need to put a curve or a kink in your line to get from the Scottish item, around the top of the one that is now in the USA, under the pedestrian one to the top of Quasimodo. I go CAPITAL, BORE, SILVERY, (2 TWISTS & TURNS) RICHARD III, HERB, CARD GAME, 12 INCHES.
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#### leon

7th October 2012, 14:05
turast, many thanks I just didn't think of doing that,should have read preamble more carefully thank you once again
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#### cruciverbalist

8th October 2012, 08:56
The tour must start and finish in regions with an odd number of 'nodes' (ie bridge ends)and must proceed from the higher number (5) to the lower (3). The exact choice of route is dictated by the directions of travel across the bridges and the need to avoid a crossing path. That one of the objects is not a bridge is confirmed by the colour of the 'E' !!
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#### rosalind

8th October 2012, 09:36
Oh brave new world
That has such people in't

When I read the preamble to this puzzle, I couldn't even begin to think what it might mean. Respect
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