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Apologies to ChrisE (who I agree with)
my last post was for Phil.

Ah, something piquant then.

No no. I prefer fragrant.

I shall leave you to your discursions (no offence meant or taken)

it's OK jazzgirl, I won't try and take advantage of you. anyway, I've stumbled across a great wheeze. I attend meetings of people who think they have been abducted by aliens. the woman are great, they're gullible and up for a bit of probing. bingo.