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alto

14th March 2023, 15:55
Completely stuck in the top left corner. 1d: Overseas bowler demonstrating turn on the way down (7). I have C H ? ? S T ?.
13a: Comb English county briefly for sedimentary rocks (7, 2 words). I have ? E (Z) (B) E D S. Not sure about the Z. Thanks.
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buddy

14th March 2023, 16:04
CHRISTY double def
RED(comb) BEDS (county)
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malone

14th March 2023, 16:05
13 Red Beds, sedimentary. rocks. Red, comb, and Beds, Bedfordshiee
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chrise

14th March 2023, 16:12
Mmmm - I had a look at this, and the answers, and am still puzzled!
Why is RED comb?
Why is overseas bowler CHRISTY? Isn't the skiing term "Christie"?
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malone

14th March 2023, 16:15
ChrisE, Red = comb is in Chambers (a variation of Redd)
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malone

14th March 2023, 16:17
Christy (or Christie) , a bowler hat, is also in Chambers.
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chrise

14th March 2023, 16:20
thanks malone. never heard of redd! wiktionary has it as scots or northern english.
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malone

14th March 2023, 16:22
THanks, ChrisE. Chambers says the word is 'chiefly' Scottish, and means to put in order, tidy out, comb etc. I used to hear it when I was young, my grannie was always going to red/redd the back room!
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jono

14th March 2023, 16:44
I did wonder what “overseas” was doing in 1d, but Chambers seems to indicate that the Christy bowler is Canadian (Can), despite the origin being the English hat maker Christys’ (still around today, apostrophe after the s)
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spoffy

14th March 2023, 17:32
I suspect this may be an error in Chambers, given that Christys' produces hats of various types. It would appear that in Canada a bowler hat was called a 'Christy stiff'. Perhaps this was shortened to 'Christy', but I can't find any supporting evidence.

The bowler was supposedly invented by Lock & Co, so a 'Locky' would seem more appropriate.
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