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chrise

14th November 2017, 11:43
New compiler? I found it very difficult, anyway, and there are three left I'm not sure about. Any hints, please?

8a Once upon a time some surgery (4)
A?O?
No idea of anything that parses

21a Noisy little thing about to trap one hound (6)
?I?I?A
I'm fairly sure of the answer to this, but "hound" doesn't look right

17d Shoot round exceptional bird (7)
?U?T?R?
I can think of two birds that fit, but neither seems to parse.
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stevie gee

14th November 2017, 11:49
17d bud & star
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chrise

14th November 2017, 11:51
Thanks stevie gee
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rossim

14th November 2017, 12:00
21a I think your second I is wrong.
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chrise

14th November 2017, 12:03
Yes, sorry rossim - it's always been an A. I'm still not happy with ?A? for "hound" though - I suppose there is a context, but it's more of a stretch than one would expect in the RT.
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djawhufc

14th November 2017, 12:03
21a is an insect that rubs its legs together!
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chrise

14th November 2017, 12:05
Yes, that's what I thought, DJA. I can see the "hound", but I'm not happy about it!
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jazzgirl

14th November 2017, 12:11
8a could be another word for 'upon'
a t(ime) + 2 letters for operation
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chrise

14th November 2017, 12:15
Ah, old word for "upon". Thanks jazzy!
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wally

15th November 2017, 12:38
21ac My Collins dictionary gives a meaning for hound as "a despicable person" which quite happily fits 3 letters in the answer.

16ac I have a word which means "run" (as might be used for drug dealers etc,) but I do not see how my answer fits in with any of the rest of the clue.
Have I got it wrong? If not , please explain.
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